Bravo 552 EOTech Replica Holosight and Echo1 EOTech Lens Protector?

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Where is the best place to purchase a Bravo 552 EOTech Replica Holosight and Echo1 EOTech Lens Protector? I'm looking to purchase one for a decent, affordable price

[ShelledPants]

http://airsoftoutletnw.com/index.php...Holosight.html

http://www.precisionairsoft.com/Echo...r-p/eoa110.htm


I would suggest against the clone EOTECHs, their performance is grossly incorrect compared to the real deal.

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Originally Posted by ShelledPants

http://airsoftoutletnw.com/index.php...Holosight.html

http://www.precisionairsoft.com/Echo...r-p/eoa110.htm


I would suggest against the clone EOTECHs, their performance is grossly incorrect compared to the real deal.

Okay, thanks for the info, that probably just made my decision for me much more easier

http://airsoftoutletnw.com/index.php...Dot-Sight.html

Does anyone know what company makes this red dot?

[Crunchmeister]

Originally Posted by ShelledPants

I would suggest against the clone EOTECHs, their performance is grossly incorrect compared to the real deal.

I'd have to disagree in part with this. Yes, it's true that replicas (NOT clones - there is no such thing as an EOTech clone) aren't as good as the real deal. There's really no comparison.

That being said, with the ranges that we're talking about in airsoft and the (lack of) accuracy of airsoft guns, there's absolutely NO REASON to hunt for an elusive $600 EOTech sight for a toy gun.

Now, not all EOTech replicas as created equal. You do get what you pay for. The cheapest ones are crappy. They have poor optics that produce many ghost reticles. Others will break for no apparent reason. On many of these cheaper ones, the reticle is far to dim to be used outdoors on a sunny day. However, the same can be said of the EOTech 502 / Bushnell Holosight as well (the dimness issue), so that's not limited to replicas alone. Most replicas will work quite well for indoors games though. Their real issue is duability. Their wiring is cheap, components are substandard, and soldering quality very poorly done. A good whack against something is often enough to break them.

If you want a good replica, you have to look at Hurricane. They make the best quality EOTech replicas on the market. They're also RDS sights, and not true holosights. So they still suffer from the parallax issues that plague the cheaper sights, although the effect isn't quite as pronounced due to higher quality components. And they're built tough enough to be able to take a beating in the field without breaking. This is really the only EOTech replica I can truly recommend for someone who plans to field their gun regularly.

And I speak from experience here. I own a Huang / G&P second generation 552, a Hurricane 552, a Bushnell Holosight (aka EOTech 502), and a a real EOTech 552. Yes, I do prefer the EOTech 552 over all. But honestly, had I not gotten it used for the cheap price I did (only slightly more than a new Hurricane), I would never have bought it. And now that I've used it in several games, I think it's sheer overkill on any airsoft gun. My Hurricane performs every bit as well as the EOTech does for the ranges airsoft guns can cover.

[ShelledPants]

I can't recommend people to buy replica EOTECHs, because as stated above, the Hurricane is the best: and it's crap compared to a real one you can get used for nearly the same price.

At ~$200US before shipping and tax for the Hurricane LED RDS, you could pay maybe $50 more and buy a used EOTECH 552 HWS.

The reasons I recommend the real over the repro, from a serious player's point of view (and ignoring the fact that the repro's don't replicate the holography at all), is that in lowlight the RDS sights destroy your natural night vision with over powered LEDs on the dimmest... While the EOTECH's laser can be turned right down to a very low light and be very usable in pitch black without ruining your eye's nightvision. Inversely, the EOTECH will never be washed out by background light in daytime, as it can be made to be super bright.

Also, real EOTECHs cannot be seen from the muzzle end, and use standardized batteries.

Also, real EOTECH reticles never change in size when viewed from further away from the observer. So placing it at the front of the gun will mean that the reticle is the same size if it were placed closer to the eye.

[Crunchmeister]

Most replicas use either standard AA or N-type batteries just like the real ones. A few use the shitty button batteries though.

And on dim settings with the red reticle, there's little difference in the effect on night vision between a real EOTech and a replica. Red light, holographic or not, has very little effect on night vision. It's why in astronomy we use red flashlights. It's why militaries issue flashlights with red filter inserts. It's why red goggles are used for operatives that are primarily outside at night and need to briefly step into a bright room. Red light, because of its wavelength, won't affect night vision. The holography has nothing to do with night vision.

What holography does so is give the illusion that the reticle is about 25-50 yards out in front of your gun. And it eliminates parallax, which means you can accurately aim when you're not looking straight into your sight. If you can see the dot, that's where your projectile will hit. With a replica, the more off-centre your are from the sight, the less accurate your aim will be. With the range and accuracy of airsoft guns, parallax has minimal impact on performance. I will totally agree that the real one will never be washed out by daylight though. You could stare at the sun through your sight and you'll still clearly see your reticle when it's on it's brightest setting.

And the cheapest I've managed to find a real EOTech for in Canada new is about $450. They're usually closer to $600. US sites sell them for about $400+ US. For a limited few that may have access to the US or a seller that's willing to disregard ITAR and illegally ship one to Canada, fill your boots. But for airsoft, it's serious overkill. I got mine used for $350 Cdn shipped, so I jumped on it. For that price, I could resell it for more if I ever wanted to get rid of it. But you can regularly get used Hurricanes for $150 Cdn, so in that scale, I don't see the EOTech as being a necessity for airsoft.

So if you have the money and have access to one, then by all means, fill your boots. But for most people, it's not worth the cost and the hassles.

[c3sk]

I recommend just buying a real one if you can find it. There are lots of 552's floating around in the 300-400 dollar price range.

The reliability you will get out of the real deal is worth the extra penny alone.
Also, after using one, you probably won't want to touch a reprotech again.

Originally Posted by Najohn

http://airsoftoutletnw.com/index.php...Dot-Sight.html

Does anyone know what company makes this red dot?

Not sure, I know Airsoft parts has a "king arms" version in stock.

http://www.airsoftparts.ca/store2/in...oducts_id=1038

[ShelledPants]

Originally Posted by Crunchmeister

Most replicas use either standard AA or N-type batteries just like the real ones. A few use the shitty button batteries though.

And on dim settings with the red reticle, there's little difference in the effect on night vision between a real EOTech and a replica. Red light, holographic or not, has very little effect on night vision. It's why in astronomy we use red flashlights. It's why militaries issue flashlights with red filter inserts. It's why red goggles are used for operatives that are primarily outside at night and need to briefly step into a bright room. Red light, because of its wavelength, won't affect night vision. The holography has nothing to do with night vision.

What holography does so is give the illusion that the reticle is about 25-50 yards out in front of your gun. And it eliminates parallax, which means you can accurately aim when you're not looking straight into your sight. If you can see the dot, that's where your projectile will hit. With a replica, the more off-centre your are from the sight, the less accurate your aim will be. With the range and accuracy of airsoft guns, parallax has minimal impact on performance. I will totally agree that the real one will never be washed out by daylight though. You could stare at the sun through your sight and you'll still clearly see your reticle when it's on it's brightest setting.

And the cheapest I've managed to find a real EOTech for in Canada new is about $450. They're usually closer to $600. US sites sell them for about $400+ US. For a limited few that may have access to the US or a seller that's willing to disregard ITAR and illegally ship one to Canada, fill your boots. But for airsoft, it's serious overkill. I got mine used for $350 Cdn shipped, so I jumped on it. For that price, I could resell it for more if I ever wanted to get rid of it. But you can regularly get used Hurricanes for $150 Cdn, so in that scale, I don't see the EOTech as being a necessity for airsoft.

So if you have the money and have access to one, then by all means, fill your boots. But for most people, it's not worth the cost and the hassles.

Yeah, you're right, go buy a repro. Totally worth it.

[Crunchmeister]

Buying a quality one like Hurricane is worth it. Otherwise, not so much. If you can find a real used EOTEch for a good price (350 or less), then I'd say it's a good deal. Otherwise, it's just overkill.

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Originally Posted by Crunchmeister

Buying a quality one like Hurricane is worth it. Otherwise, not so much. If you can find a real used EOTEch for a good price (350 or less), then I'd say it's a good deal. Otherwise, it's just overkill.

OKay thanks for the advice guys, more is welcomed if you want to add your 2 cents on this. I'm kind of new to this so the more indepth it is (which it has been so far, thank you crunchmeister!) the more helpful it is.

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