GBB M4's: WA | Inokatsu | WE

Dragate · February 24th, 2009, 01:52

So recently I've taken a shine to the gbb's.

haha?

Electric motor sounds ... just don't cut it XD
Some nice blowback with a tad of recoil looks and probabaly feels pretty good.

So I have a few questions.

I know WA was the starter of this "bonfire trend" (don't look big enough to me), but the really high rep Inokatsu, and new WE GBB's look to have promise too.

Recently a review for the WE GBB has been posted in the reviews sections and seems to have REALLY poor quality on externals.
I was told by the new Inokatsu owner with the miad full set (we know who that is) that it is THE best brand.
OWNS WA and G&P!
----- does G&P make GBB's? Which brands do?

I'm really concerned about this HFC matter. As we know the duster gas cools mags... not a good thing to have. Which of these brands can handle the new technology of AI and cheap propane from canadian tire?

I watched a few comparisons on realism of the 3 brands listed in the thread title to find Inokatsu the most realistic in terms of measurements and placements of parts. True? Vraiment? Or a total lie?

How about durability?
And... Let's say I want to upgrade the inner barrel. I want a tanio koba, I know you can install those on AEG's and makes sense to be able to on a GBB, but is it? How about RAS/RIS'? What if I was to get the O SOOOO sexy DD mk18 7" RAS from ebaybanned? Can I install it with ease? Stocks?

How about that RA tech adjustable fps GBB bolt carrier thing. Looks cool O_O
Worth it? I know Inokatsus and WE shoot around 500 stock, except WE is pretty deviant and jumps from around mid 300's to well over 500, where the Inokatsu is more of like a slowly declining line until you warm up the mag haha.

No I have not had any previous experience with GBB's, not even pistols, but I've read some of the maintenance FAQ's and they said to oil the mags? Keep a bit of gas? Same goes for the AR GBBs right?

KEVORKIAN · February 24th, 2009, 02:03

Here's a good start...and there's more than enough info to make your head spin!

http://gasguns.info/forum/

Dragate · February 24th, 2009, 02:23

whoa nice =]

kk thnx!

Rookie Ab · February 24th, 2009, 09:09

Hey Kev,You forgot to mention the second mortgage that he's going to need

Nabisco_Lobstrosity · February 24th, 2009, 11:58

To help narrow down your Gas Guns info searching, there was a thread spefically about compatible parts of WA / Ino M4's. I found it useful when I was starting to put my own gun together -

http://gasguns.info/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=55

Donster · February 24th, 2009, 12:02

dont be suckered in by equating high FPS with quality. If your gun is shooting that high, your going to have to use .30g as the bare minimum

Dynamo · February 24th, 2009, 12:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by DONSTER 125

dont be suckered in by equating high FPS with quality. If your gun is shooting that high, your going to have to use .30g as the bare minimum

reguardless of BB weight, if it's shooting that high, he will have a hard time being allowed to play anywhere.

the best thing to do is read up on gasgun.info.
personally im going to pick up a Prime body with the Prime reciver parts kit, G&P barrel, PGC hop-up, RA-Tech N.P.A.S complete bolt and a bunch of RS parts.

im still waiting for RA-Tech to release thier CO2 mags.

dragwindsor · February 24th, 2009, 12:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dynamo

reguardless of BB weight, if it's shooting that high, he will have a hard time being allowed to play anywhere.

the best thing to do is read up on gasgun.info.
personally im going to pick up a Prime body with the Prime reciver parts kit, G&P barrel, PGC hop-up, RA-Tech N.P.A.S complete bolt and a bunch of RS parts.

im still waiting for RA-Tech to release thier CO2 mags.

Get the RA-Tech Hopup and Barrel. I did.

1" groupings at 30 ft. with my Ino.

Dragate · February 24th, 2009, 13:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by DONSTER 125

dont be suckered in by equating high FPS with quality. If your gun is shooting that high, your going to have to use .30g as the bare minimum

That's not what I meant haha. What I meant is the consistency of the gun due to mag cooling, and declining gas. If it's at 500 fps, even with .3 I'm not gonna be able to play in any games...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kody_1

Hey Kev,You forgot to mention the second mortgage that he's going to need

Already applied for

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nabisco_Lobstrosity

To help narrow down your Gas Guns info searching, there was a thread spefically about compatible parts of WA / Ino M4's. I found it useful when I was starting to put my own gun together -

http://gasguns.info/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=55

Will do some reading on that

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dynamo

reguardless of BB weight, if it's shooting that high, he will have a hard time being allowed to play anywhere.

the best thing to do is read up on gasgun.info.
personally im going to pick up a Prime body with the Prime reciver parts kit, G&P barrel, PGC hop-up, RA-Tech N.P.A.S complete bolt and a bunch of RS parts.

im still waiting for RA-Tech to release thier CO2 mags.

G&P Barrel?
Can't you use like a tanio koba/prometheus?

Quote:

Originally Posted by dragwindsor

Get the RA-Tech Hopup and Barrel. I did.

1" groupings at 30 ft. with my Ino.

Hm... Since I'm probabaly gonna get the variable oblt from RA, is it possible to just build a whole new GBB out of parts? Like for example I know the Inokatsu bodies have engravings, and I'm not really a fan of it, but I really like my G&P metal body with the USMC laser cnc trades.
Can I just buy parts to build the GBB out of that?

Amos · February 24th, 2009, 14:47

Everything for the GBB M4's is completely different from the AEG M4's (Internally anyways)

The guns fire too hot to be used in most places in canada right now... but I'm sure some one will come up with a really good FPS reduction system soon (if there isn't one already)

dragwindsor · February 24th, 2009, 14:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amos

Everything for the GBB M4's is completely different from the AEG M4's (Internally anyways)

The guns fire too hot to be used in most places in canada right now... but I'm sure some one will come up with a really good FPS reduction system soon (if there isn't one already)

There is, the RA Tech NPAS. It's adjustable, from like 230 to 500.

Dragate · February 24th, 2009, 15:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by dragwindsor

There is, the RA Tech NPAS. It's adjustable, from like 230 to 500.

but for the ra tech NPAS, it doesn't fit in the inokatsu bolt carrier eh, so I have to spend money on that too...

and for the brands of gbb's we is worst right?

then wa and then inokatsu?

dragwindsor · February 24th, 2009, 15:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dragate

but for the ra tech NPAS, it doesn't fit in the inokatsu bolt carrier eh, so I have to spend money on that too...

and for the brands of gbb's we is worst right?

then wa and then inokatsu?

It DOES drop into the stock Ino loading nozzle.

I personally don't like the WE. It feels weird. I like the WA system [WA,G&P,Ino]

Watch for my video on how to smash a WA coming soon.

hongkong100 · February 24th, 2009, 15:38

there won't be a video on how too smash one yet if i can come up with the money first

airborneboi69 · February 24th, 2009, 15:39

anyone have access to metal bodies for the WA i really need one bad lol

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February 24th, 2009, 01:52	#1
Dragate Trader rating Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Waterloo-Toronto-Ottawa	GBB M4's: WA \| Inokatsu \| WE So recently I've taken a shine to the gbb's. haha? Electric motor sounds ... just don't cut it XD Some nice blowback with a tad of recoil looks and probabaly feels pretty good. So I have a few questions. I know WA was the starter of this "bonfire trend" (don't look big enough to me), but the really high rep Inokatsu, and new WE GBB's look to have promise too. Recently a review for the WE GBB has been posted in the reviews sections and seems to have REALLY poor quality on externals. I was told by the new Inokatsu owner with the miad full set (we know who that is) that it is THE best brand. OWNS WA and G&P! ----- does G&P make GBB's? Which brands do? I'm really concerned about this HFC matter. As we know the duster gas cools mags... not a good thing to have. Which of these brands can handle the new technology of AI and cheap propane from canadian tire? I watched a few comparisons on realism of the 3 brands listed in the thread title to find Inokatsu the most realistic in terms of measurements and placements of parts. True? Vraiment? Or a total lie? How about durability? And... Let's say I want to upgrade the inner barrel. I want a tanio koba, I know you can install those on AEG's and makes sense to be able to on a GBB, but is it? How about RAS/RIS'? What if I was to get the O SOOOO sexy DD mk18 7" RAS from ebaybanned? Can I install it with ease? Stocks? How about that RA tech adjustable fps GBB bolt carrier thing. Looks cool O_O Worth it? I know Inokatsus and WE shoot around 500 stock, except WE is pretty deviant and jumps from around mid 300's to well over 500, where the Inokatsu is more of like a slowly declining line until you warm up the mag haha. No I have not had any previous experience with GBB's, not even pistols, but I've read some of the maintenance FAQ's and they said to oil the mags? Keep a bit of gas? Same goes for the AR GBBs right?

February 24th, 2009, 02:03	#2
KEVORKIAN Trader rating Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Manitoba	Here's a good start...and there's more than enough info to make your head spin! http://gasguns.info/forum/ __________________ Kevorkian I SUPPORT THE USE OF SILICA BB BASTARDS!

February 24th, 2009, 09:09	#4
Rookie Ab a.k.a. Kody_1 Trader rating Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: 51° 2′ 42″ N, 114° 3′ 26″ W	Hey Kev,You forgot to mention the second mortgage that he's going to need __________________ AKA : Rookie, on a few other boards.

February 24th, 2009, 02:23	#3
Dragate Trader rating Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Waterloo-Toronto-Ottawa	whoa nice =] kk thnx!

February 24th, 2009, 11:58	#5
Nabisco_Lobstrosity Trader rating Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Charlottetown, PEI	To help narrow down your Gas Guns info searching, there was a thread spefically about compatible parts of WA / Ino M4's. I found it useful when I was starting to put my own gun together - http://gasguns.info/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=55 __________________ Nabisco Lobstrosity --------------------

February 24th, 2009, 12:02	#6
Donster Trader rating Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: GTA	dont be suckered in by equating high FPS with quality. If your gun is shooting that high, your going to have to use .30g as the bare minimum

February 24th, 2009, 14:47	#10
Amos Trader rating Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Japan	Everything for the GBB M4's is completely different from the AEG M4's (Internally anyways) The guns fire too hot to be used in most places in canada right now... but I'm sure some one will come up with a really good FPS reduction system soon (if there isn't one already) __________________ Custom Builds: FA3674U Krinkov G3SD6

February 24th, 2009, 15:38	#14
hongkong100 14 Years Old Trader rating Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: surrey bc	there won't be a video on how too smash one yet if i can come up with the money first

February 24th, 2009, 15:39	#15
airborneboi69 Trader rating Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Pembroke on	anyone have access to metal bodies for the WA i really need one bad lol __________________ airborneboi69

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