G&P M4 GBB

Double Tapper · January 24th, 2009, 05:56

For those that have not been following,G&P have up graded
the WA M4.Here is a post RA-tech put up on Arnies.

Dear All,

This is Henry Wang of RA-TECH.
We just get the G&P and we can`t wait to share the video with you! =]

Test Video 1:
http://tw.youtube.com/watch?v=WD4L_Z...eature=channel
It`s playing with original parts.

Video 2:
http://tw.youtube.com/watch?v=SQMm9K...eature=channel
The second video, we install our parts into the G&P M4.
I hope you like our presentation!

Best regards,

Henry Wang
RA-TECH Customer Service

Capt.Flan · January 24th, 2009, 12:39

This is where airsoft is going to I guess. Prepare to get gas guns in the future IMO.

Rookie Ab · January 24th, 2009, 14:56

OH ya,I can't wait for someone on here to start stocking these (and

lots of accessories )

jesster202 · January 24th, 2009, 15:22

i personaly cant wait for theys

Double Tapper · January 24th, 2009, 15:28

They are the up graded WA's,and they are suppose to be a lot
cheaper to buy.Link is a list of their GBB units.

http://www.gp-web.com/en/products.ph...WEB&bid=WOC_AG

Conscript · January 24th, 2009, 15:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cpt.Flan

This is where airsoft is going to I guess. Prepare to get gas guns in the future IMO.

Are you kidding me? This is a step backward. You don't know anything about the evolution of airsoft do you. There was a reason why the AEG replaced gas guns 18 years ago.

Nothing will ever replace an AEG in terms of skirmish ability.

pusangani · January 24th, 2009, 15:38

hhehehe noobs, gas guns are old school, try playing outside in the winter with one of these, no way that can beat an aeg, but it is awful kool tho and must be fun to shoot, gbb rifles are great for chairsofters but for actual gaming, not very practical unless u have a ton of cash for a full mag loadout or running an external air rig, then you look like a ghost buster

Shirley · January 24th, 2009, 15:46

That's deadly.

pusangani · January 24th, 2009, 15:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr.Hitman

That's deadly.

that's because it's "CUSTOMELIZED"

hehehehhe

Double Tapper · January 24th, 2009, 15:55

Well I'm not much for playing in winter any more,and it would make
a nice collection piece(s).And gas does suck during the winter,my
first game was with a GBB pistol in March,it was all I had,but was
still fun.Everything has it's draw backs,Gbb's it's cold weather,AEG's
it's fuses,gears,springs,pistons,Batt's and motors,and lets not forget
the biggest one,WATER.So all in all,I enjoy both of them without
knocking the other,it all depends on the players choice.

ILLusion · January 24th, 2009, 16:16

Is it a good thing or bad thing that there is no flute valve? What is the purpose of the flute valve?

aZn_triXta07 · January 24th, 2009, 16:17

Accuracy an AEG will always win.

Realism. GBB wins there's nothing realistic about a sewing machine.

Personally I prefer maintaining a GBB so much LESS hassles IMO.
If they can get these magazines to work with HPA you'll be seeing these guns in the winter.

It's the only one thing the Classics ever had that was good, just that nobody wanted to be carrying around a tank with a hose sticking out.

Rookie Ab · January 24th, 2009, 17:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by ILLusion

Is it a good thing or bad thing that there is no flute valve? What is the purpose of the flute valve?

If I understand it correctly the flute valve is located in that feeding nosel 'when the bb is pushed up the feed ramp into the chamber the valve is pushed against the bb,when the bolt if closed, holding the port open for the gas to push the bb down the barrel.When the bb leaves,then the valve closes (no contact to the bb) and the rest of the gas charge is used to drive the bolt carrier to the rear.The problem seems to be on some of the guns,the bb gets pushed too far into the chamber (past the hopup) so the valve make no contact.stays closed ,diverting all the gas to the bolt carrier to cycle the gun.Opps ,now we have 2 bbs in the gun (unless the first one rolled out of the barrel).
From what I hear Inokatso ,has made the same change to their new bolts.

This is my take on what I've heard

ILLusion · January 24th, 2009, 17:38

I see, so then it acts just like a reed valve / floating valve / cylinder bulb in GBB pistols, and this one works on exactly the same principals as WA GBB pistols.

Hmm... I'm sure the system can be refined - if WA pistols can do it, a rifle should be able to as well.

I know RA-Tech has a new/modified hop up chamber/unit that holds the BB in better. I wonder if that might solve the issue... there seems to be very little information about what all these new RA-Tech products actually DO.

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January 24th, 2009, 05:56	#1
Double Tapper Trader rating Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: The land of the over regulated and the banners	G&P M4 GBB For those that have not been following,G&P have up graded the WA M4.Here is a post RA-tech put up on Arnies. Dear All, This is Henry Wang of RA-TECH. We just get the G&P and we can`t wait to share the video with you! =] Test Video 1: http://tw.youtube.com/watch?v=WD4L_Z...eature=channel It`s playing with original parts. Video 2: http://tw.youtube.com/watch?v=SQMm9K...eature=channel The second video, we install our parts into the G&P M4. I hope you like our presentation! Best regards, Henry Wang RA-TECH Customer Service

January 24th, 2009, 12:39	#2
Capt.Flan Trader rating Join Date: Sep 2008	This is where airsoft is going to I guess. Prepare to get gas guns in the future IMO. __________________ http://shtyk-nozh.xooit.com/portal.php

January 24th, 2009, 14:56	#3
Rookie Ab a.k.a. Kody_1 Trader rating Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: 51° 2′ 42″ N, 114° 3′ 26″ W	OH ya,I can't wait for someone on here to start stocking these (and lots of accessories ) __________________ AKA : Rookie, on a few other boards.

January 24th, 2009, 15:22	#4
jesster202 Trader rating Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: London Ontario	i personaly cant wait for theys __________________ *MY COLLECTION* *AEG* M4 coustom full metal with king arms metal body //\\ Galaxy MP5 PDW *GAS/SPRING* KJW M9 FULLY UPGRADED //\\KWA FULL SIZE USP //\\ TF MAC11 *GEAR* Coyote Brown CIRAS

January 24th, 2009, 15:28	#5
Double Tapper Trader rating Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: The land of the over regulated and the banners	They are the up graded WA's,and they are suppose to be a lot cheaper to buy.Link is a list of their GBB units. http://www.gp-web.com/en/products.ph...WEB&bid=WOC_AG

January 24th, 2009, 15:38	#7
pusangani Official ASC "Dumb Ass" Trader rating Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Scarbrah, Ontario	hhehehe noobs, gas guns are old school, try playing outside in the winter with one of these, no way that can beat an aeg, but it is awful kool tho and must be fun to shoot, gbb rifles are great for chairsofters but for actual gaming, not very practical unless u have a ton of cash for a full mag loadout or running an external air rig, then you look like a ghost buster

January 24th, 2009, 15:46	#8
Shirley A-56 aka Mr.Hitman Trader rating Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Toronto, ON	That's deadly. __________________ CANADIAN AIRSOFT PRACTICAL SHOOTING (CAPS) CAPS DIRECTOR # 0047

January 24th, 2009, 15:55	#10
Double Tapper Trader rating Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: The land of the over regulated and the banners	Well I'm not much for playing in winter any more,and it would make a nice collection piece(s).And gas does suck during the winter,my first game was with a GBB pistol in March,it was all I had,but was still fun.Everything has it's draw backs,Gbb's it's cold weather,AEG's it's fuses,gears,springs,pistons,Batt's and motors,and lets not forget the biggest one,WATER.So all in all,I enjoy both of them without knocking the other,it all depends on the players choice.

January 24th, 2009, 16:16	#11
ILLusion GBB Whisperer Trader rating Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Toronto	Is it a good thing or bad thing that there is no flute valve? What is the purpose of the flute valve? __________________ *Advanced Airsoft Armaments and Enhancements* Quick to the gun, sure of your grip. Quick to the threat, sure of your shot. Diligentia, Vis, Celeritas Accuracy, Power, Speed

January 24th, 2009, 16:17	#12
aZn_triXta07 Trader rating Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Toronto, Ontario	Accuracy an AEG will always win. Realism. GBB wins there's nothing realistic about a sewing machine. Personally I prefer maintaining a GBB so much LESS hassles IMO. If they can get these magazines to work with HPA you'll be seeing these guns in the winter. It's the only one thing the Classics ever had that was good, just that nobody wanted to be carrying around a tank with a hose sticking out.

January 24th, 2009, 17:38	#14
ILLusion GBB Whisperer Trader rating Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Toronto	I see, so then it acts just like a reed valve / floating valve / cylinder bulb in GBB pistols, and this one works on exactly the same principals as WA GBB pistols. Hmm... I'm sure the system can be refined - if WA pistols can do it, a rifle should be able to as well. I know RA-Tech has a new/modified hop up chamber/unit that holds the BB in better. I wonder if that might solve the issue... there seems to be very little information about what all these new RA-Tech products actually DO. __________________ *Advanced Airsoft Armaments and Enhancements* Quick to the gun, sure of your grip. Quick to the threat, sure of your shot. Diligentia, Vis, Celeritas Accuracy, Power, Speed

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