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Old May 7th, 2008, 18:21   #1
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Question Marui / FPS question

Hi everyone, I'm new to these forums but I've been looking around here for a while.

My question is about Marui, I've heard it's one of the best producer of airsoft guns, is that right? It will be my first AEG and I'm currently looking for the Tokyo Marui M16 A1, so I want to know if 280 FPS (average strenght of Marui gun I've heard) is strong enough to start without upgrading it?

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Old May 7th, 2008, 18:27   #2
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Welcome to the forums. The FAQs and weapon reviews hold a lot of info.

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Old May 7th, 2008, 18:29   #3
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Welcome to the boards! Depends if you are going to be playing indoors or outdoors. But since you are getting an M16 I assume it is for outdoors. 280 fps is fine for starting out. I would say it's better to play a few games with your stock gun and then upgrade if you feel it's necessary.

And before someone else says it, complete your profile and get age verified, blah blah blah.
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Old May 7th, 2008, 18:32   #4
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280fps is enought for most games. Perfect for indoor, ok for outdoor. If you play in a wooden field, you will be ok if you know how to move and get close when needed.


When you start playing, it's best to start with a stock gun. You will better understand the dynamic of the game without having to worry about hurting people and breaking your gun with bad upgrades.
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Old May 7th, 2008, 18:47   #5
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Thanks for the info, so I guess 280 FPS is all right for a starter like me. I'll look for that. I'm also getting age verified asap. Thanks a lot! (any more infos are welcome)
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Old May 7th, 2008, 19:36   #6
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I think 280 is good for a first game. Trust me, you'll know what your gun needs once you've played with it. My first few rounds played of my first game were with my upgraded M15 rifle (shooting 350), and it was awesome. I played a couple of rounds with my stock Real Sword Type 56 (shooting 310), and really, I liked it almost as much. It was more the feel of the gun that I liked less than the M15, really.

But - I could tell that in the thick brush we were playing in, the higher velocity of the M15 gave me better penetration and got me several kills whereas the lower velocity guns being shot at me (stock TM P90s) couldn't cut through the brush to tag me. In the open, my Type 56 was more accurate at long range, despite its lower velocity.

Start with the gun stock, and you'll see for yourself what it needs. TM make great upgrade platforms. When you do decide to upgrade, the only 2 things you should really consider changing are the bushings (metal to replace the nylon ones), and maybe a slightly stronger spring.
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Old May 7th, 2008, 20:50   #7
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280 FPS will be fine for someone just starting off.
No upgrades required, as the nylon bushings in a stock gun should support it just fine, Although as preventative maintenance it is required to replace them with metal ones.

Down the road after a few games and when you get the feel of how things work you can consider upgrades.

Thanks for filling in your profile. The following is a generic copy and paste message I throw out for new people to this website. You can read it if you like. Some of the info maybe useful to you.

This forum holds a lot of information. Please keep in mind before starting a new thread, that there maybe an existing one already. Near the upper right hand corner next to the quick links and log out tab is the search tab. With that you can attempt to see if there is a thread on the topic, don’t get discouraged if you don’t find something right away, change up your search words as well, the search system doesn’t just find tittles it looks for word matches in the content as well. If there is an existing thread on the topic and something wasn’t clear, don’t be afraid to necro post, despite what some douche bags say, its perfectly fine.

I’m sure you have a lot of questions, and in time you will find all the answers. There’s a lot to learn and it cant be picked up in a week or two. But I’m time you will learn what you need.

Heres a little reading Id like you to have a look at.
http://www.airsoftcanada.com/showthread.php?t=51609
It will shed a little light on airsoft in Canada in general.

Now as for airsoft in Canada, just as a general consensus this website and the majority of its members follow the 18 years of age rule. Meaning that it is recommended that a person be the age of 18 before they acquire their first gun. It is recommended because 18 is the recognized age where a person can be held legally responsible for their actions. Now it may not be illegal in all provinces to own airsoft, but I do believe there is a province out there where there is an actual law stating that one must be 18 to purchase. Which one that is, I cannot remember. Hopefully someone can perk up and jump in on that part. The majority of fields used for airsoft play usually require that a person be 18 years of age as well, although I have heard of fields where there have been players as young as 16, with parental consent.
I would like to take a moment to touch on maturity. I find people of all ages quote maturity, unfortunately stating maturity is irrelevant when it comes to airsoft, for the most part at least. There have been people as old as 40 and up who have acted like they were 12. I have already stated why the age of 18 was chosen. Now from time to time I hear people who are underage say that they have grown up with firearms all their life and they hunt and everything etc. If this applies to you then you should pay attention to this, if not you should read it and take it to heart anyways. So you have hunted for a long time? Been around guns since you were little? Well good you should have a firm grasp of trigger and muzzle control then. Now unfortunately regardless how much experience you have with fire arms you can not use it as a bargaining chip to skirt around what has been set as a rule among this community.
In my personal opinion an airsoft gun is not a fire arm; however that’s my personal opinion. For me, an airsoft gun only looks like a fire arm but that’s where I draw the line in comparisons. They do not function the same, sure relations can be made but they still are not the same. Now although I may not consider an airsoft gun a fire arm, authorities will in most instances. If you get caught doing something stupid with an airsoft gun you will be charged as if you are committing an offence with a real fire arm. If you are under the age of 18, the damage falls onto your legal guardians, so the shit really hits the fan. If you’re 18 and over at least you can be held responsible for being stupid. That’s the jist of it, accept it or don’t.

This website has a process called age verification, where if you are 18 or older you can meet with a volunteer representative of this website who will meet with you in person, there is no way around this, no phone, no webcam, in person only, where they will require to see a legitimate piece of photo identification. After the process is completed, it can take sometime as this is all volunteer work, you will be granted access to this websites buy and sell section, where you can find both new and used guns, for fair and competitive prices. Although its not always the case, it is sort of an open market.

Things to keep in mind when initially getting into airsoft.

-Its usually best to start with an AEG.

-Remember to factor in the costs of gear for your kit, BDU's, footwear, vest or holsters, slings and most of all, eye protection. Money can fix teeth, but I don’t think we can fix a shot out eye yet.

-You don’t always have to have a side arm in the beginning, its something you can pick up along the way.

-In most cases its recommended to play with your gun stock for a while before considering upgrades. Upgrading can be costly and can cause complications in some cases.

-Don’t forget to buy magazines for whatever gun you choose. High caps are ok, but well they rattle. Mid caps and low caps in my personal opinion are best.

This link is a link to a page that has some information in regards to picking your first AEG. I suggest you take sometime and read it.

http://www.airsoftcanada.com/showthread.php?t=253

Gun reviews can be found all over the internet, regardless which search engine you use, a different combination of search words can yield different searches. Let me keep it short and sweet, for the bulk of it, AEGS are simple motors that drive pistons that compress a spring to expel air to propel a BB down a barrel. How you want that set up to look is up to you. There are many brands of companies out there that make airsoft guns, how much you pay maybe relevant to the quality you receive.

Tactics and gear questions, tactics and other movement and communication methods can be learned on the internet or will be picked up overtime as you play. Gear, people build kits that suite their needs, its not just about looking cool. Some people simple use a holster for a side arm and carry a few mags in pockets. Others prefer to carry a full kit. To each his own. Its something you build and develop to your playing style over time.


Finally this website also has a FAQ section that holds some useful info, it may not be entirely up to date, but I suggest you poke around in there as well. You may find something handy.
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Old May 7th, 2008, 21:00   #8
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Stock TM gun using 0.25g will be totally fine to start off with. Using 0.20g will give you headaches and increase the drive to upgrade (which will be useless if you still want to use 0.20g). 0.25g Bbs are the minimum you want to use at outdoor games, as 0.20g Bb will fly every which way after 80ft and won't even push light dead grass aside.
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Old May 7th, 2008, 21:04   #9
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I've been using .25s since day one, never looked back.
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Old May 7th, 2008, 21:30   #10
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TM's are likely the best (affordable) stock guns out there. Internals are real durable as long as you don't put any other parts in it.
280fps is a good place to start off, I highly suggest getting a guarder clear hopup rubber to use in your gun! It's a 5$ upgrade and it's one of the best upgrades you can get. It'll increase range and accuracy, sometimes by alot
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Old May 7th, 2008, 21:42   #11
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TM's are likely the best (affordable) stock guns out there. Internals are real durable as long as you don't put any other parts in it.
280fps is a good place to start off, I highly suggest getting a guarder clear hopup rubber to use in your gun! It's a 5$ upgrade and it's one of the best upgrades you can get. It'll increase range and accuracy, sometimes by alot
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Threw one into my 270 FPS AK, and it now out ranges 450+ FPS Chinese L96's
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Old May 7th, 2008, 21:53   #12
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A choice of TM is always good. You are on the right track, buddy.
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