Aluminum bb's

[mike in van]

Are these worth the extra money?
What are the pros and cons, are they harder on a AEG?
.29 weight
Ideally they will fly straighter and further outdoors I'm hoping.

[mike in van]

Originally Posted by Endymion

Ideally you have no illusions of using these in a game I'm hoping.

No I plan on using these at my brothers farm this summer.

[Jayhad]

Originally Posted by Endymion

Ideally you have no illusions of using these in a game I'm hoping.

why not? impact force has nothing to do with the material an object is made of, it is the weight and velocity People already use .30 plastic bbs right?

MIKEINVAN I would think they would have the potential to foul/dirty up your barrel as aluminum is so soft

[mike in van]

Hmm ... barrel fouling is a potential detriment.
I want to shoot clay pigeons though, I don't think plastic will shatter them.
Not flying ones of course.

[Griffin]

Originally Posted by Endymion

Material has plenty to do with energy dissipation due to deformation upon impact. Any material that deforms easily such as soft woods or plastic will bleed more of its energy on impact. It's similar to the reason why a paintball breaking on you will hurt less than one that bounces given the same velocity on impact.

AMEN to that!, Once a long time ago while playing paintball in the winter was hit with a semi-frozen ball that did not break. The pain from that shot was like being hit by a hard hockey puck and no padding. Needless to say I called myself out that round and for a few rounds after until the pain was gone.

[CDN_Stalker]

Typically what I've seen is the aluminum BBs weigh 0.29g. So literally they wont' do a lot more damage than a typical plastic BB weighing close to the same. What you want (and wont' be able to use on any field) is a high powered gun shooting 0.88 steel BBs.

Then again if you want to just shoot clay 'pigeons', just buy a Crosman or some other airgun. Airsoft really can't be used for what you are hoping to do with it.

[mike in van]

Originally Posted by CDN_Stalker

Typically what I've seen is the aluminum BBs weigh 0.29g. So literally they wont' do a lot more damage than a typical plastic BB weighing close to the same. What you want (and wont' be able to use on any field) is a high powered gun shooting 0.88 steel BBs.

Then again if you want to just shoot clay 'pigeons', just buy a Crosman or some other airgun. Airsoft really can't be used for what you are hoping to do with it.

I sent him out a drozd for his birthday (full auto bb gun) and he seems to enjoy it.
the downside is CO 2 is expensive.
I figure a Kraken full of aluminum 6mm bbs might be fun out there.
Clay pigeons are excellent targets they shatter on impact and biodegrade so no need to clean up.

[CDN_Stalker]

Originally Posted by mike in van

I sent him out a drozd for his birthday (full auto bb gun) and he seems to enjoy it.
the downside is CO 2 is expensive.
I figure a Kraken full of aluminum 6mm bbs might be fun out there.
Clay pigeons are excellent targets they shatter on impact and biodegrade so no need to clean up.

Ya, CO2 is expensive and it makes David Suzuki cry (fuck Al Gore, the more CO2 you use in your guns, the more he can justify the billions he's made from his Sci-Fi movie, and his new Nobel Peace Prize.............. those are currently available in Kinder Eggs, get yours while they are still available!!!)

[ThunderCactus]

Now I'm partial to both theories; aluminum doesnt deform or break like plastic does so it can transfer more energy, faster. But the weight is the same, therefore the energy is the same.
Has anyone done any conclusive testing for proof?

[CDN_Stalker]

Aluminum does deform, I used to have some aluminum BBs and shot a lot of them, then would collect and found cuts and flat spots on them, depending on where they were fired at. So literally they suffer the same as plastic BBs, just that they don't break apart.

[El Cactus Loco]

Originally Posted by CDN_Stalker

Ya, CO2 is expensive and it makes David Suzuki cry (fuck Al Gore, the more CO2 you use in your guns, the more he can justify the billions he's made from his Sci-Fi movie, and his new Nobel Peace Prize.............. those are currently available in Kinder Eggs, get yours while they are still available!!!)

you present a very persuasive argument...
energy aside, i think aluminum would do more damage. whereas a normal plastic bb might break up on hitting a hard surface, an aluminum one might not be inclined to do so, and might break the object instead.

[ThunderCactus]

Honestly I don't think it really matters. Is your skin hard enough to break a bb? No, infact I find it hard to believe a bb would deform at all upon hitting something as soft as skin. The radio in your pack, gun or helmet maybe. But in order for an aluminum BB to break an object upon hitting it, the object would have to be VERY brittle, like a thin sheet of glass or 40 year or thin piece of plastc.
Theres a good chance that an aluminum BB would have better odds of piercing through low end goggles (like classic army goggles), but what fool entrusts the safety of his only two eyes to a pair of low end goggles??
I still stand by the fact we should do testing on the matter, but I really don't think the results are going to be much different. The only test that has been performed so far was a single uncontrolled test with no actual definitive conclusions.

[DSFD506]

I was told by a gun doc that the aluminum bb's are just plastic bb's with a metal coating. This true or not ?

[MestHead]

Materiel should matter, think about some one swinging a bag full of 1 pound of cotton and hitting u with it vs a bag full of 1 pound of rocks with the same force.

[Funker-Tactical]

its diffrent they ocupy different space if you condensed the one pound of cotton into the same size as the rocks it wouldnt feel any different the bbs are the same size same weight and both have hard surfaces...