ITW fastmag system

[Chubby]

Hey this looks neat. What do you guys think?

YouTube - ITW Military Products: FAST MAG Demo

[FOX_111]

It's a little bulky, but it's a good idea.

Another solution looking for a problem. As someone who designs and build kit, I can tell you right now that it's fucking retarded.

What benefit does it provide over conventional mag pouches? If anything, it detracts. It takes up the spot a regular double mag pouch can occupy, and it only holds ONE MAG. It's open-topped, which is a no-go for sandy or dirty environments. Fully half your mag is exposed, and those were airsoft mags. AR mags are fully an inch longer than the AS equivalents.

Also, that guy bugs me. He's gotta be 4 feet tall...look at how big those mag pouches look on his plate carrier. Also note his gear is squeeky clean, so it's never seen much more than the basement he films in.

And lastly, if you're demoing a product, don't use airsoft to do it. Put a loaded 30 round mag in there so you can show how it reacts with the weight of a full-sized, fully loaded magazine.

[Lakonian]

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=9Zd_mTonRIU

This seems nicer.

[Farmboy]

I played with one at CANSEC last year when I met with the rep for ITW. It works quite well however it is also quite large.

It is very well built and works just like it's designed however my though was a shingle can do the same thing with less space.

[MrEvolution]

I dont like how theres only a shock cord in certain scenarios, especially when upside down.
I know he jumped around and stuff but I still dont like it.

[Ibby]

Originally Posted by MadMorbius

Another solution looking for a problem. As someone who designs and build kit, I can tell you right now that it's fucking retarded.

What benefit does it provide over conventional mag pouches? If anything, it detracts. It takes up the spot a regular double mag pouch can occupy, and it only holds ONE MAG. It's open-topped, which is a no-go for sandy or dirty environments. Fully half your mag is exposed, and those were airsoft mags. AR mags are fully an inch longer than the AS equivalents.

Also, that guy bugs me. He's gotta be 4 feet tall...look at how big those mag pouches look on his plate carrier. Also note his gear is squeeky clean, so it's never seen much more than the basement he films in.

And lastly, if you're demoing a product, don't use airsoft to do it. Put a loaded 30 round mag in there so you can show how it reacts with the weight of a full-sized, fully loaded magazine.

+1. The dude looks and sounds retarded to boot.
I just shot on the ranges today at work, in the rain. That thing would completely screw a mag if used in the prone position. Unless you like shooting mud at people. Takes up some serious acreage too. The issued CF tac vest, which I don't enjoy, works a lot better than that thing. It would also be broken in record time in arctic conditions. Just ask anyone who ever used the old Diemaco mags. The only thing I could see it being useful for is some sort of specialized match competition.

[wey ferro]

i think their intentions were cqb doorkickin steez but eagle already has a 50 times better pouch that takes up less space

[SINN]

man, that was the best video i have seen in a long time. classic.

[LUTNIT]

Originally Posted by kos

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=9Zd_mTonRIU

This seems nicer.

I saw that too but can't find any info on it...

[Goodl2ussian]

i couldnt take any of those videos seriously...especially with the midget hopping around like he did too much speed.

[ThunderCactus]

http://www.tacticaltailor.com/index....ROD&ProdID=336
It's good if your only planning on carrying 4 mags, but its WAY too bulky, and I can't see it being faster to use than a triple mag pouch with ranger plate magpuls.

[H-G]

A few things.
Milspec Monkey is not and never was a soldier. He worked on the development of the video game America's Army, and is well known on a few U.S. based warfare forums, but that is about it.
The pouch itself is appears too large for what it offers, though I think they could improve it by adding PALS to the outside. The solid polymer would probably be much more supportive to pouches attached to the exterior than any empty nylon shingle.
There are communities that could benefit from a product, though the active U.S. military is probably not going to be one of them. Race shooters and LEO / SWAT types will likely find this product to be more useable, as their equipment is often exposed to cleaner environments for much less extend periods of time. High speed reloading and low ammo requirements are a few other reasons why this product would be useful to them.
All feedback that I've ever heard from the active U.S. military community has led me to belive that storing magazines in anything other than pouches mounted in the upright position in a combat environment is just asking for trouble (this is why the BALCS armor carrier was so rarely seen with pouches actually mounted on it outside of training). As I said, Milspec Monkey was never really exposed to combat in the way other soldiers might be, so I'm not completely sold on the idea of mounting these things upsidown.
Attaching these pouches to a vest strikes me as a waste of space. I think having them on a belt, or even a low profile drop leg rig would be a much better place for them.

Much like Camelbak's delta 5 vest, this product strikes me as something that would have been much more successful if it was released 5-10 years ago. Kydex and polymer magazine holders have existed for a while, and Eagle Industries has successfully adapted them to PALS equipment some time ago.
Anyway, those are my thoughts on the subject.

[wey ferro]

true dat homie
but if you are gonna put somehtingthat huge anywhere on you why wouldnt you just use bladetach or eagle... they take up nearly half the space.

[H-G]

Exactly, other companies have been doing it better for longer.