Gearing problems

[DSFD506]

It's a Ver. II gearbox with Guarder Torque Up gears. I've set the timing to the 1300 position but when I cycle the shots, the piston keeps releasing afterwards. So I took it back apart and just timed the gears around the 1300 position but keeps having the same problem. The piston is in great shape with no teeth problems along with the gears. Any Ideas ?

[ILLusion]

The piston is *suppose* to release near the end of the cycle... It doesn't get released before it's wound...

I must not be getting something here...

[DSFD506]

What I meant was after I stop firing the piston releases itself. I never had any problems with it doing this before.

[Renegade)]

Sounds like its winding backwards after u stop shooting? Make sure the anti reversal latch is catching properly on the bevel, I had the same problem.

[CDN_Stalker]

Could be your anti-reversal latch spring became disengaged when you were closing the mechbox. I've had that happen before a few times, easy fix though.

[Kos-Mos]

Easy fix, but you need to know what to do...

Open mechbox
Look near the first gear/bevel gear (the one next to the motor)
There is a small lever with a spring on it. It should be placed so that the spring apply tension on the lever against the bevel gear.
Close mechbox carefully

Enjoy! Should solve everything.

If you still can't make it or if you are not sure what to move, get it to a gun doc.

[TokyoSeven]

Oh the anti reversal latch causes me much pain. Slightest bump during reassemly and POING! out it comes.

[DSFD506]

appreciate everyone....yeah when I get a chance to crack it open i'll take a look at it. I had a feeling it was the anti reversal latch due to the way it sound. I'll let ya know if that was it.

[Styrak]

Indeed. Fucking antireversal latches. The are the bane of mechboxes.

[Omi-san]

Originally Posted by TokyoSeven

Oh the anti reversal latch causes me much pain. Slightest bump during reassemly and POING! out it comes.

That's what I thought before I experienced the g36 trigger assembly. At least the anti reversal latch will sometime stay in place, the G36 trigger assembly doesn't stay in place at all.

[Skruface]

Originally Posted by Styrak

Indeed. Fucking antireversal latches. The are the bane of mechboxes.

Seriously, guys, the new MODIFY anti-reversal latch is the cat's ass. Seriously. Just drop in and go.

Seriously.

[ThunderCactus]

theres no such thing as timing...

[DSFD506]

Well took it apart this morning and the anti reversal latch is fine. I even checked it over several times. When outside to fire it and still performed the same way. Except every now and then it would catch. It's got me stumped so I guess i'll have to take the 2 hour drive to see my gun doc. I read skruface mention a MODIFY anti reversal latch but who carries those ?

[DSFD506]

Originally Posted by ThunderCactus

theres no such thing as timing...

Sure there is...just about everything mechanically has timing. If the timing is off on the gears inside the mechbox then it won't operate properly.

[ILLusion]

Originally Posted by DSFD506

Sure there is...just about everything mechanically has timing. If the timing is off on the gears inside the mechbox then it won't operate properly.

No there isn't

You can try to put the sector gear in any way you want... even with the nub 180 degrees opposite of where it should be (at 1900) and you will experience two things:

1) You won't be able to install the piston because the sector gear's teeth are in the way, and as a result, you can't close the gearbox.
2) If you have enough hands to do it, you can preload the spring/piston and align the piston with the proper sector gear tooth and close up the gearbox, but the moment you fire your first shot, the cut-off lever will trip the trigger to stop the cycle, and guess where it naturally stops? That's right, at 1300.

So ultimately, it doesn't matter how you put the sector gear, assuming you align it right with the piston (you'll know it's wrong right away because if it's REALLY wrong, you won't even be able to install the piston), the first shot you take in semi-auto will reset the entire circuit to be "timed" correctly.

Even if you throw the nub to the 1400 position, it should still operate correctly. Ultimately, regardless of where you place the nub, the cut-off lever will always trip at the correct place. Why? Because the actual "timing" mechanism is attached to the sector gear - it's the oblong teardrop shape on the bottom side that trips the cut-off lever, and is what times the entire system. NOT where you place the little nub. It's a different story if that part was not one piece with the sector gear and was movable.