ABS durability

Lakonian · August 12th, 2006, 06:53

How does low metallic content ABS (KSC's specifically) compare to metal in terms of ductility , and melting points?
I've read some polymers can withstand alot of abuse, just trying to get an idea of what it CAN/CAN'T stand up to.
Thanks.

Rumpel Felt · August 12th, 2006, 13:41

Well I would say it depends on which metal, greatly.

As for plastic against plastic, CA glass fibre G36's feel a thousand times better and stronger than the TM stuff. Everything TM I've felt must be low metallic content because it usually feels like a Walmart piece. I am curious as to what this glass fibre can stand up too as well.

Lakonian · August 12th, 2006, 14:22

I've read somewhere that TM uses really low quality plastics...:S

^Hyperion^ · August 12th, 2006, 15:15

That's so false. TM have very good ABS bodies ( except for Armalites )

Lakonian · August 12th, 2006, 15:25

oh yeah? Well there ARE exceptions, such as the Aug Civvie/Mil-spec , M14 , AK spetz(all of which I have held), but that's about it... I hear the FA-MAS is utter shit , though. There's alot of shit floating around, about TM's build quality...

MMMiles! · August 12th, 2006, 15:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by kos

oh yeah? Well there ARE exceptions, such as the Aug Civvie/Mil-spec , M14 , AK spetz(all of which I have held), but that's about it... I hear the FA-MAS is utter shit , though. There's alot of shit floating around, about TM's build quality...

The FAMAS is nearly a 10 15? year old model. TM uses very good quality plastics, and the cosmetic finish on their plastic parts is unrivalled. Armalites bodies have some thin points on them, however, where plastic isn't always ideal.

Lakonian · August 12th, 2006, 15:42

It's almost 10 years old? Damn, didn't know that. >_O;

MMMiles! · August 12th, 2006, 15:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by kos

It's almost 10 years old? Damn, didn't know that. >_O;

There's a reason TM's perform and last as well as they do: Marui has been at this for a long time, they are the original large-scale AEG manufacturer. While other companies produce very good models, and metal bodies start to really put TM to task, they are still playing catchup to TM's overall standard of engineering.

Some of the older TM models are just not up to our modern standards sometimes, such as the FAMAS, M16 and UZI, but usually that's reflected in their price.

Marin · August 12th, 2006, 16:29

Acrylnitrile butadene styrene also know as ABS has been used for functional and field tests - from wind tunnel testing to camera mounts on a M1A Bradley tank and a spray gun running at 60 psi. So it should be tough enough for the body of an airsoft gun... and if it isn't I would like to know what you do with your guns.

hope it helpd

ancorp · August 12th, 2006, 17:17

Almost 10 years old? I thought I saw it in the 1991 promotional video...

Cheers,
Alex

MMMiles! · August 12th, 2006, 17:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by ancorp

Almost 10 years old? I thought I saw it in the 1991 promotional video...

Cheers,
Alex

Yeah, I guess I forgot how fast the years went by. Some of TM's early models must be pushing 15 years now.

ancorp · August 12th, 2006, 17:30

Heh, yep and for those that missed it on Classicairsoft (down), here it is!: 1991marui adv upload by mr__snake

Cheers,
Alex

Autumn · August 12th, 2006, 21:30

Awsome viedo, thanks for the link. :grin:

^Hyperion^ · August 12th, 2006, 23:54

Again you're wrong , Kos. The Famas is REALLY durable. Some guys i know have had it for over 6 years and it's still in top shape. Yeah the body is a bit creaky but that can be over if you have 5 min of spare time and some electric tape. All TM bodies are really god , except for ARs.

Lakonian · August 13th, 2006, 00:16

Process of learning, Hyperion.
It's good to know that TM's plastics are tip-top...but how is KSC's?

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August 12th, 2006, 06:53	#1
Lakonian kos Trader rating Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Wherever.	ABS? How does low metallic content ABS (KSC's specifically) compare to metal in terms of ductility , and melting points? I've read some polymers can withstand alot of abuse, just trying to get an idea of what it CAN/CAN'T stand up to. Thanks.

August 12th, 2006, 15:15	#4
^Hyperion^ Trader rating Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Montreal , Quebec	That's so false. TM have very good ABS bodies ( except for Armalites ) __________________

August 12th, 2006, 23:54	#14
^Hyperion^ Trader rating Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Montreal , Quebec	Again you're wrong , Kos. The Famas is REALLY durable. Some guys i know have had it for over 6 years and it's still in top shape. Yeah the body is a bit creaky but that can be over if you have 5 min of spare time and some electric tape. All TM bodies are really god , except for ARs. __________________

August 12th, 2006, 13:41	#2
Rumpel Felt Trader rating Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Kitchener, Ontario	Well I would say it depends on which metal, greatly. As for plastic against plastic, CA glass fibre G36's feel a thousand times better and stronger than the TM stuff. Everything TM I've felt must be low metallic content because it usually feels like a Walmart piece. I am curious as to what this glass fibre can stand up too as well.

August 12th, 2006, 14:22	#3
Lakonian kos Trader rating Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Wherever.	I've read somewhere that TM uses really low quality plastics...:S

August 12th, 2006, 15:25	#5
Lakonian kos Trader rating Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Wherever.	oh yeah? Well there ARE exceptions, such as the Aug Civvie/Mil-spec , M14 , AK spetz(all of which I have held), but that's about it... I hear the FA-MAS is utter shit , though. There's alot of shit floating around, about TM's build quality...

August 12th, 2006, 15:42	#7
Lakonian kos Trader rating Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Wherever.	It's almost 10 years old? Damn, didn't know that. >_O;

August 12th, 2006, 16:29	#9
Marin Trader rating Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: kington/toronto	Acrylnitrile butadene styrene also know as ABS has been used for functional and field tests - from wind tunnel testing to camera mounts on a M1A Bradley tank and a spray gun running at 60 psi. So it should be tough enough for the body of an airsoft gun... and if it isn't I would like to know what you do with your guns. hope it helpd

August 12th, 2006, 17:17	#10
ancorp AK Guru Trader rating Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Vaughan, Ontario (near Toronto)	Almost 10 years old? I thought I saw it in the 1991 promotional video... Cheers, Alex

August 12th, 2006, 17:30	#12
ancorp AK Guru Trader rating Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Vaughan, Ontario (near Toronto)	Heh, yep and for those that missed it on Classicairsoft (down), here it is!: 1991marui adv upload by mr__snake Cheers, Alex

August 12th, 2006, 21:30	#13
Autumn Trader rating Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Coquitlam	Awsome viedo, thanks for the link. :grin:

August 13th, 2006, 00:16	#15
Lakonian kos Trader rating Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Wherever.	Process of learning, Hyperion. It's good to know that TM's plastics are tip-top...but how is KSC's?

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