More Multicam......

[DIMES]

Hey there. I was out the other day and as always my brother took alot of pictures.

This is a pic of me on a ridge wearing Multicam. If you have a hard time finding me I am just to the right of the clump of trees just left of center on top of the ridge.

[SINN]

looks good..but you could also be wearing pink and still be hard to see from that distance behind branches.

[THE CAT]

Interesting picture, but camouflage is the best mix of art and science. Like SINN outlined, someone in a bunny suit can kick serious butt just by using the proper setting. And someone in Multicam, in the proper setting can still be detected if he's still wearing that cheap cologne blowing in the wind.

+Noise frequency of your camouflage
+Blending of the camouflage colors and patterns
+Human outline must be broke to reduced shape reconition
+State of awardness of the people looking for you
+Shadows
+...

Look at this excellent document on Wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camoflage
and there's a lot of links to MARPAT, CAPDAT, DPM...

But, Multicam still kick ass.

A+

[DIMES]

Originally Posted by THE CAT

Interesting picture, but camouflage is the best mix of art and science. Like SINN outlined, someone in a bunny suit can kick serious butt just by using the proper setting. And someone in Multicam, in the proper setting can still be detected if he's still wearing that cheap cologne blowing in the wind.

+Noise frequency of your camouflage
+Blending of the camouflage colors and patterns
+Human outline must be broke to reduced shape reconition
+State of awardness of the people looking for you
+Shadows
+...

Look at this excellent document on Wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camoflage
and there's a lot of links to MARPAT, CAPDAT, DPM...

But, Multicam still kick ass.

A+

I agree 100%, the use of camo is sometimes more important than the actual camo itself. I have alot of pics of Multicam from late winter, spring and now summer, and it does better than I thought it ever would. Alot of nonusers of Multicam say it is too light. I say a big WHATEVER to that. When I lay in an open field to snipe little animals at the farm it blends with the light tans around me. I wish I could photoshop a pic of me from a field into that pic I just posted. I will go get it and edit it in.

That pic was taken two days ago and he did some video while out on that trip. It is unreal how well it goes from dark to light. Multicam looks too light to me as I wear it, but it does a spectacular job of reflecting the colors around it towards observers......

[THE CAT]

But everything must be put in context. BDU's camoflage is still a static way to reduced your visual signature. CAPDAT people are almost invisible in pine trees, but are black lego blocks in urban setting or open field. I will use again that quote from someone else on the forum... "CADPAT is excellent in one place... multicam is adequate in many"

This is a tactical choise. As for me, it's multicam all the way. More that half of the modern battles are in urban, semi-urban context. Soldiers are surrounded by ruins, bricks, concrete, broken trees and urban parks. Add some dust and rain...

Usually, it take 3 sec to acquire a target and fire... camouflage should raise that to 1-2 sec more... so a guy trying to fire at you will take 4-5 sec to do so. A camouflage will make your enemy hesitate before opening fire.

Of course... sometime you will be completly invisible. You cannot fire at something you can see.

The camouflage discussions seem to be a endless one, but like many military tactics, you're real weapon is your brain. Use it wisely.

In the second pic you've posted, the individual stands out clearly. If he was lying in the other direction, taking advantage of the horizontal lines of grass, he'd be much more concealed.

It's not just what you wear, but how you use it. Good patterns help, but the operator's actions go a long way to make it optimal.

[CDN_Stalker]

I've often thought multicam was too light as well, but since I decided to go from cadpat (which I KNOW how to use very well, and always take routes or position myself in areas that cadpat works best) to multicam, it'll be something new for me to learn. But since my first game this year I've been paying attention to places I play with an eye for MC, and noticed some things. First game this year for me, was April 1st, not much foliage around, and looking through trees in the brush we play, you could see guys legs moving against a light backdrop. MC would eliminate that rather well. Played a night game (3/4 moon) a few months back, as it got cooler I put on my multicam smock over my cadpat, and noticed I could see guys wearing cadpat and woodland, at a distance, looking like black blobs moving around. My team noticed just how well multicam works at night, the dark silhouette is eliminated, and multicam turns into various shades of grey, same as the surroundings. Game this Saturday will be my first one wearing full multicam, looking forward to it!

[THE CAT]

Indeed, using the wild weed line would have greatly reduce visual signature.

[DIMES]

Originally Posted by MadMorbius

In the second pic you've posted, the individual stands out clearly. If he was lying in the other direction, taking advantage of the horizontal lines of grass, he'd be much more concealed.

It's not just what you wear, but how you use it. Good patterns help, but the operator's actions go a long way to make it optimal.

I know, but the critters were the other way! Sometimes you gotta take the shots given. Something I learned while hunting a long time ago was you take the shot as soon as you can, if you wait until the shot is "perfect" you more than likely will not even get the shot. In Airsoft it also means the guy on the other side will have that much longer to get ya.

If I were to have posed in that last pic I would have layed down in the slightly darker tan above me in that pic.

Very soon I will not be wearing Multicam much, but I will be wearing ACU almost constantly. In my adventures around the globe I hope to acquire a set of Cadpat TW and AR. It won't be my first choice for a day in the field, but I do go into deep dark swampy timber sometimes for timber coyotes. I am sure it will conceal me well to call 'em in close enough for the kill........

[lt_poncho]

Agreed it's how you use it and the choices you make that make the overall difference. Like any other camo, it's effectiveness has it's bearing on who's wearing it. I like MultiCam, but it's not an invisible stealth suit like it's hype makes it out to be.

EDIT: PM me if you want the previous link. Too many pictures are showing up on LightGHEYFighter. Thanks KATO/Mr. P David/Mr. UBC Accounting student. I'll put a good word in for you for recruiting - you might not like those words...