CADPAT or Multicam

[DIMES]

I know compare compare compare......... I see alot of pictures of cadpat working very well in a specific enviroment, and it does work good. I also hear alot of cadpaters say Multicam is wat too light for dark enviroments. I do not think so, wait a minute, I know not so!

These pictures were taken from 6-29-06 to 7-2-06. These are pictures of the settings I use Multicam in. I know there will be places in these pics where cadpat will work best, but take a few steps and you will be spotted a mile away.

I have some pictures of the multicam in dark settings and in the open in the sun.


This picture is obviously in a dark setting. Directly behind me is an open door to the inside of the barn which is very dark. I don't think cadpat could have done any better!




These pictures are obviously in the open in bright sun light. Cadpat won't even touch it here, way too black and green


ACU?









I have a few more, but you get the idea

[THE CAT]

IMO, go for MC. There's a lot of open space and blended colors. Imagine those same areas in fall or winter. Like someone said before, CADPAT is excellent in a few spots, MC is good in many places AND excellent in a few spots.

Cheers!

[swatt13]

mc is better imo, its more versatile. cadpat is nice and effective, but it limited to certian environments

Multicam. Blends in with ALMOST any environment, as soon as I am done with upgrading I will be purchasing a set, but for now I have to make due with woodland. Cadpat is great too, but it doesnt touch MC. Dont even think about ACU, one of the worst patterns ever.

[Gordon]

Get a suit and accessories of both! CADPAT during the warmer months, multicam for the off months and non-green environments...and maybe a black rig for night ops...I need a second job.

You don't need to wear black at night.... Camo works just as well in daylight as they do during the day

[Gordon]

I'd still like to have a batman/urban ninja outfit, just in case.

[Oz]

Its probably noteworthy that your from the US... CADPAT was designed for Canadian forests where there is significantly more foilage and green than there appears to be in your area. Your pictures show a much more arad setting which if far more stuable for MC. Out here on the west cost MC is terrible. I have a complete set of both CAD and Multi, the cadpat is infinantly more effective, even in the much hotter and 'browner' interior of BC our team of cadpat players were far more effective than the opposing force of multicam users (hehe both in skill and use of camo).

I wouldnt go as far as saying that your comparison is like using a woodland camo in a desert setting, but its not all that far off. Cadpat works more than amazing where it was made to work. Multicam is a more universal pattern but it is still a more arad pattern. In our club there are more than a few people who use each pattern so we have not only personal expirence and speculation about how well the patterns work on us, but also loads of feedback from the people shooting at us .

When it comes down to it, if you have to decide on a pattern, go for both!

[DIMES]

When I get into the dark canopy covered forest I prefer East German Rainpat. I have been useing rainpat since 1994 and it was the first color changeing camo I ever used. I have but a few limited photos of it, but here are a few.



This one is of me in the shadow of a big tree.


This is a pic of it out in the open.


The only place it does not work well is in the fields around where I live. If I cross a tan colored field you can spot me a mile away, for real.

Then came Multicam and I dont worry about crossing this anymore.


Them little rolls in the land on the left of the last photo, are over a mile away, and anyone wearing comercial hunting camos that are way too dark can be seen from where I stood to take that last pic!! There is no way someone wearing Multicam would be seen easily.

[swatt13]

cant find any photos or info on rainpat, is that the actual name for it, can you supply a link to something on it, kinda interested.

[Oz]

Its better known as east german raindrop pattern, if your interested in it check flecktarn.co.uk they usually have some stuff in.

Its also called Strichtarn, it was used by the former east german army

[DIMES]

Originally Posted by swatt13

cant find any photos or info on rainpat, is that the actual name for it, can you supply a link to something on it, kinda interested.

http://www.flecktarn.co.uk/productsstr.html

DIMES - in the environment you've pictured, MC will definitely excel. If you step out of those environments however, say for instance into the North Carolina forests and swamps around Bragg, you would be completely out of place and something like Cadpat would be much better suited to area. Marpat would be the best bet for something like that...

As has been said COUNTLESS times before, there is NO SINGLE PATTERN that provides optimum concealment in ALL areas. ALL camouflage patterns are AREA SPECIFIC.

MC might do an "ok job" in a lot of places, but you will ALWAYS find something that is much more effective in a GIVEN area.

[DIMES]

Originally Posted by MadMorbius

DIMES - in the environment you've pictured, MC will definitely excel. If you step out of those environments however, say for instance into the North Carolina forests and swamps around Bragg, you would be completely out of place and something like Cadpat would be much better suited to area. Marpat would be the best bet for something like that...

As has been said COUNTLESS times before, there is NO SINGLE PATTERN that provides optimum concealment in ALL areas. ALL camouflage patterns are AREA SPECIFIC.

MC might do an "ok job" in a lot of places, but you will ALWAYS find something that is much more effective in a GIVEN area.

That is exactly what I said. Now go to the top and look at the last three photos. Cadpat will work best only if you are in the darker, greener portion of the photo. Multicam will be darker in the shade, just look at the pic I posted. In the open, yep Multicam will work their also, cadpat will not.

Cadpat may be slightly better in the dark areas, but nowhere even near poor in the tans (you will stick out for more than a mile away). Infact it will fail in the open fields.

Multi-enviroment camo is made for enviroments where you will encounter multiple settings short distances from one another. In my case it is a matter of a few feet I can be in thick canopy covered forests that are thousands of acres, to openfields with overgrown hedges for an equal amount of acreage. I have multiple settings, so a multiple setting camo works best where I am. The pictures on this web sight are no hoax www.multicampattern.com. click on images. They have alot more time than I do to take pictures.

Them forests (in Canada) wont be soo green and black in the late fall and winter and spring (the majority of the year). In that case a camo like Multicam or ACU will work best. Even the rainpat looks more like the greys of the trees, just like the pic of it in the open. Seasons are just as important as setting.

[CDN_Stalker]

Originally Posted by -MikeL-

You don't need to wear black at night.... Camo works just as well in daylight as they do during the day

Multicam works incredibly well at night, more so if there is any moonlight. I wore my cadpat one evening game, worked fine, then as the dark anc cold came, put on my MC recce smock and HSGI ballcap, was a half moon night I recall, and a team mate was shocked to see just how much the MC blended in with the areas we were playing (forested with thin tree canopy in places, lots of dead leaves around and grassy areas elsewhere). Even from a distance, guys with woodland and cadpat looked like dark silhouettes moving around. Is one of the reasons why my team is switching over to MC as a secondary uniform, with cadpat being the first (and we have arid for desert games).