NV Equipment

DJ_Mittens · July 1st, 2006, 10:02

Howdy folks,

I read through a couple threads on here about NV equipment, but it didn't really detail what would constitute a "recommended" model.

What I'm interested in is a NV monocular of somewhat respectable quality, while trying to keep the price in the $500 price point. I realise there is a lot of GEN1/1+ equipment both above and below this price, but I feel that for a hobby, $500 should be enough to get something of decent quality (ie: will last more than 2 hours), but won't break the bank.

I've been directed to Bushnell by a couple people, but I'm entertaining alternatives. Ideally, it would be something I can get from a brick-and-mortar company, preferably in Winnipeg, in case of warranty issues. I know that can limit my options, too.

Thanks for your help in advance.

Kane · July 1st, 2006, 16:49

To be totally honest, you're better off saving your money and spending it on a better model, GEN 2/3. There's just only so much gen. 1 can help you with. I've went through 3 units so far, and I'm currently with a set of ANVIS (I believe) goggles in gen. 1. A nice unit all around, but it's still gen. 1, and it cost me way past the $1000. I'm looking to be upgrading very soon. That being said, most all NV is the same, but made by a different company. For the most part, if you're spending $500, you'll be getting an okay piece of kit.

Hope this helps!

Gryphon · July 3rd, 2006, 00:37

The D-112 seems to be the most recommended Gen 1+ unit on the market right now. Acceptable performance, "military" looks (you can remove the 3X magnifier) and a decent price. It also has a head mount available for it which I don't think any Bushnell can claim.

http://www.opticshq.com/Merchant2/me...potting-Scopes

By the way, the only Gen 2 that can be exported from the States is anything that says "Mil Spec" and has a tube data sheet. Don't ask me why, I don't understand it either. Other Gen 2 units that don't have a data sheet (or higher generations) cannot be exported without controls and permits.

DJ_Mittens · July 3rd, 2006, 00:58

Thanks for the advice Kane and Gryphon. I'll see if I can get my hands on the D-112.

SohxBlitz · July 3rd, 2006, 06:24

thats what i need to get another one of a nv scope my mg36 looks kind of naked right now

Ibby · July 13th, 2006, 10:35

http://www.nvoptics.com/catalog.htm

This place was good to deal with. I spoke with a fellow over the phone, and he didn't seem too sure of things, but I ordered an NV rifle scope from them without and problems. I wound up getting a GS-19 with a Brit 3rd gen tube to my door for $1800 and change. Dirt cheap for something of that quality. It's been used often and is still going strong. A bonus is they're Canadian, so there's no hassles with exporting crap. They also carry thermal imagers (never got price quote$ on them) which the US won't allow to cross the border, but they're made here. Again no export concerns. Take a look and see what they have.

Gryphon · July 13th, 2006, 12:22

Hah, don't bother asking for a quote on thermal imagers. The cheapest ones I've seen START around the $5,000 mark. Elcan thermal imaging riflescopes start at $13,000 USD and go up from there. I'd give my left nut for one but I don't think I'd find any takers.

$1,800 for a Gen 3? Are you serious?

paranoid987 · July 13th, 2006, 12:41

I've got a Yukon Monocular on the way with head gear. It was 300 USD. Got it from HERE

I'll let you know how it preforms when it gets here.

-Mark

Ghillie973 · July 13th, 2006, 12:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gryphon

$1,800 for a Gen 3? Are you serious?

I think he's mistaken. The website says the GS-19 is a Gen 2+

DJ_Mittens · July 13th, 2006, 12:55

GT-14 Multipurpose Night Vision Pocketscope
Special Offer!
USD $1,499.00
CAD1,798.80 (Estimated price)

Features:

* Magnification 1x
* Lens System 25 mm f1.2
* FOV 40°
* Image Intensifier: Gen. 3 (grade B)
* Resolution 38-45 lp/mm
* Range of Focus 1 ft. to infinity
* Diopter Adjustment +5 to -5
* Camera/Camcorder Adaptable Yes
* Built-in IR Illuminator: Yes
* Battery Type/Life: CR123 /40 hours
* Dimensions 4.2 x 3 x 2.5 in.
* Weight 9.2 oz
* Operating Temperature -40°C to +50°C

I might actually buy one of these in the fall, once I save up enough coin.

Gryphon · July 13th, 2006, 14:52

Eww, grade B tube. You're better off getting a Gen 2 for the money. Hit up http://www.nightvisionforums.com for a lot of good talk about NV.

Ibby · July 14th, 2006, 04:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ghillie973

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gryphon

$1,800 for a Gen 3? Are you serious?

I think he's mistaken. The website says the GS-19 is a Gen 2+

Nope, not mistaken. It was in their clearance item section which is now called "retail web shop". Yes, it's a B grade gen 3 British tube, but I had no worries picking it up for that price. I took it to work, tested it out, and it fell well within gen 3 specs. I'm a happy camper.

DJ_Mittens · July 23rd, 2006, 15:37

I've decided to upgrade my tastes a bit, and am looking at possibly picking up a Gen2 unit while I'm in the US next week.

I'll be at Dick's Sporting Goods picking up a Rino 530, and thought I might get a NV unit while I'm there. Time is limited, so I can't do much shopping. It's basically show up, get hardware, pay and leave.

Here are the units in my price range:

http://www.dickssportinggoods.com/fa...0&doVSearch=no

I was specifically looking at the PS-14, which has decent reviews from what I've been able to find. My options are limited as to what I can buy anywhere because I don't have a credit card or a bottomless bank account.

What are ASC's thoughts on the PS-14?

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July 1st, 2006, 10:02	#1
DJ_Mittens Rest in Peace Trader rating Join Date: May 2005 Location: Winnipeg	NV Equipment Howdy folks, I read through a couple threads on here about NV equipment, but it didn't really detail what would constitute a "recommended" model. What I'm interested in is a NV monocular of somewhat respectable quality, while trying to keep the price in the $500 price point. I realise there is a lot of GEN1/1+ equipment both above and below this price, but I feel that for a hobby, $500 should be enough to get something of decent quality (ie: will last more than 2 hours), but won't break the bank. I've been directed to Bushnell by a couple people, but I'm entertaining alternatives. Ideally, it would be something I can get from a brick-and-mortar company, preferably in Winnipeg, in case of warranty issues. I know that can limit my options, too. Thanks for your help in advance.

July 1st, 2006, 16:49	#2
Kane Trader rating Join Date: May 2002 Location: Salmon Arm, BC	To be totally honest, you're better off saving your money and spending it on a better model, GEN 2/3. There's just only so much gen. 1 can help you with. I've went through 3 units so far, and I'm currently with a set of ANVIS (I believe) goggles in gen. 1. A nice unit all around, but it's still gen. 1, and it cost me way past the $1000. I'm looking to be upgrading very soon. That being said, most all NV is the same, but made by a different company. For the most part, if you're spending $500, you'll be getting an okay piece of kit. Hope this helps! __________________ “You hear the far-off crack of a rifle, your fate finally registering in your subconscious far too late as the white hot bullet penetrates your skull. Another round slams into the chamber even as your lifeless body falls to the ground…”---Unknown sniper “Invisible souls leave .308 holes.”----USMC Recon Sniper

July 3rd, 2006, 00:37	#3
Gryphon Trader rating Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: MB	The D-112 seems to be the most recommended Gen 1+ unit on the market right now. Acceptable performance, "military" looks (you can remove the 3X magnifier) and a decent price. It also has a head mount available for it which I don't think any Bushnell can claim. http://www.opticshq.com/Merchant2/me...potting-Scopes By the way, the only Gen 2 that can be exported from the States is anything that says "Mil Spec" and has a tube data sheet. Don't ask me why, I don't understand it either. Other Gen 2 units that don't have a data sheet (or higher generations) cannot be exported without controls and permits.

July 3rd, 2006, 00:58	#4
DJ_Mittens Rest in Peace Trader rating Join Date: May 2005 Location: Winnipeg	Thanks for the advice Kane and Gryphon. I'll see if I can get my hands on the D-112.

July 3rd, 2006, 06:24	#5
SohxBlitz Banned Trader rating Join Date: May 2006 Location: Calgary Alberta	thats what i need to get another one of a nv scope my mg36 looks kind of naked right now

July 13th, 2006, 10:35	#6
Ibby Trader rating Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Victoria/Kingston	http://www.nvoptics.com/catalog.htm This place was good to deal with. I spoke with a fellow over the phone, and he didn't seem too sure of things, but I ordered an NV rifle scope from them without and problems. I wound up getting a GS-19 with a Brit 3rd gen tube to my door for $1800 and change. Dirt cheap for something of that quality. It's been used often and is still going strong. A bonus is they're Canadian, so there's no hassles with exporting crap. They also carry thermal imagers (never got price quote$ on them) which the US won't allow to cross the border, but they're made here. Again no export concerns. Take a look and see what they have.

July 13th, 2006, 12:22	#7
Gryphon Trader rating Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: MB	Hah, don't bother asking for a quote on thermal imagers. The cheapest ones I've seen START around the $5,000 mark. Elcan thermal imaging riflescopes start at $13,000 USD and go up from there. I'd give my left nut for one but I don't think I'd find any takers. $1,800 for a Gen 3? Are you serious?

July 13th, 2006, 12:41	#8
paranoid987 Trader rating Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Winnipeg	I've got a Yukon Monocular on the way with head gear. It was 300 USD. Got it from HERE I'll let you know how it preforms when it gets here. -Mark

July 13th, 2006, 12:55	#10
DJ_Mittens Rest in Peace Trader rating Join Date: May 2005 Location: Winnipeg	GT-14 Multipurpose Night Vision Pocketscope Special Offer! USD $1,499.00 CAD1,798.80 (Estimated price) Features: * Magnification 1x * Lens System 25 mm f1.2 * FOV 40° * Image Intensifier: Gen. 3 (grade B) * Resolution 38-45 lp/mm * Range of Focus 1 ft. to infinity * Diopter Adjustment +5 to -5 * Camera/Camcorder Adaptable Yes * Built-in IR Illuminator: Yes * Battery Type/Life: CR123 /40 hours * Dimensions 4.2 x 3 x 2.5 in. * Weight 9.2 oz * Operating Temperature -40°C to +50°C I might actually buy one of these in the fall, once I save up enough coin.

July 13th, 2006, 14:52	#11
Gryphon Trader rating Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: MB	Eww, grade B tube. You're better off getting a Gen 2 for the money. Hit up http://www.nightvisionforums.com for a lot of good talk about NV.

July 23rd, 2006, 15:37	#13
DJ_Mittens Rest in Peace Trader rating Join Date: May 2005 Location: Winnipeg	I've decided to upgrade my tastes a bit, and am looking at possibly picking up a Gen2 unit while I'm in the US next week. I'll be at Dick's Sporting Goods picking up a Rino 530, and thought I might get a NV unit while I'm there. Time is limited, so I can't do much shopping. It's basically show up, get hardware, pay and leave. Here are the units in my price range: http://www.dickssportinggoods.com/fa...0&doVSearch=no I was specifically looking at the PS-14, which has decent reviews from what I've been able to find. My options are limited as to what I can buy anywhere because I don't have a credit card or a bottomless bank account. What are ASC's thoughts on the PS-14?

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