Improving accuracy?

RC Collins · June 15th, 2006, 08:55

I'm wondering if any company makes a tight bore barrel for TM AK47's?

I have an AK and find the accuracy ok, but could be better. Maybe I'm too picky, but if I fire indoors at a 2 1/2 inch round target (like the little targets you get when you buy a new gun from TM) at 20 feet away, I get maybe 3 shots just inside the circle (but far from center) out of 13 shots. The shots seem to pull to the right, ever so slightly. Adjusting hop-up and my sites does very little, if anything.

Anybody else shoot an AK, and find the same problem, or any gun for that matter? ... will a tight bore barrel (if they are made for AK's) help?

:salute:

yanhchan · June 15th, 2006, 09:29

Actually thats not horriable. However I am able to do the TM 8-9 rings from 25ft standing.

Trader rating · June 15th, 2006, 10:08

many companies make toghtbore barrels for the AK.
If its your 1st gun, yah, reality sets in fast. Airsoft guns are the last thing from accurate.
but 20ft is a short distance to measure it really. really wanna try it a 50 to 100ft.
In general, you want to be able to hit a man sized target at over 100ft.

hopup wont do much at 20ft. its ment to flatten your trajectory and usually isnt noticed at short distances.
but if its not having an effect at 100ft, then lube it with silicone lube spray.

Kid · June 15th, 2006, 10:16

I'm going to have to toss a comment in here.

I find tightbores 100% worth it.
and...
Definately get a Systema. It's not worth spending twice as much to get a Prometheus barrel. I've owned both and noticed little difference.

BC_K · June 15th, 2006, 10:36

Forget 6.03 & 6.04. Take the big step and get a 6.01mm tightbore!! :wink:

LUTNIT · June 15th, 2006, 14:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by BC_K

Forget 6.03 & 6.04. Take the big step and get a 6.01mm tightbore!! :wink:

Aernt those like $100 each and can jam if there is even the slightest deformation in the BB?

The Saint · June 15th, 2006, 14:35

There's always the mystical Tanio Twist barrels...

Luckyorwhat · June 15th, 2006, 16:09

6.04 is the largest bore, right?

Skruface · June 15th, 2006, 17:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Saint

There's always the mystical Tanio Twist barrels...

Only designed for guns shooting under 350 fps, though. If you play outdoors with heavy underbrush, you need more than 350 to punch through the foliage at ranges beyond 40 yards.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Luckyorwhat

6.04 is the largest bore, right?

I've seen as open as 6.09 on some cheap HK knockoffs and springers.....stock TM barrels are 6.08-ish by comparison.

active1x0 · June 15th, 2006, 17:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by Luckyorwhat

6.04 is the largest bore, right?

No.

However, if you're talking about for a TM Kalashnikova, then I don't know.

RC Collins · June 15th, 2006, 20:50

Thanks for the info... I'm definitly getting a tight bore barrel now, but just not sure what size. I'm guessing from what I've read here, a Systema 6.03 is what I want. If anyone thinks this is wrong, please tell me now.
I thought at first my in-accuracy problem could be becuase of the upgrade I had done (new gears / 170 spring - 390 fps) but then I thought, if anything, that would make it MORE accurate.

CDN_Stalker · June 15th, 2006, 21:35

Make sure you clean your barrel every thousand shots or so. I've seen shitty accuracy in guns shoot great after a good barrel cleaning. Includes GBBs BTW. Example, my sniper rifles, I clean the inner barrel every 30-40 shots to keep the accuracy & consistancy at it's max. My M700's C&A goes to crap after about 40 rds.

BC_K · June 16th, 2006, 02:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by LUTNIT

Quote:

Originally Posted by BC_K

Forget 6.03 & 6.04. Take the big step and get a 6.01mm tightbore!! :wink:

Aernt those like $100 each and can jam if there is even the slightest deformation in the BB?

I beleive I saw them for sale on here on ASC for around $80 or so CAD.

Kokanee IIRC, was selling them, there is the PDI barrels & then these custom ones made by an airsoft retailer just across the border in Washington. I do recall the barrels being black.

I had the link bookmarked but during a hard drive failure in the last few days I lost the link.

Muwahahaha!! I found them!
http://www.deescustoms.com/prod_custom-barrels.html

Definetaly a barrrel I will put in my next gun.

Mantelope · June 16th, 2006, 18:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by RC Collins

Thanks for the info... I'm definitly getting a tight bore barrel now, but just not sure what size. I'm guessing from what I've read here, a Systema 6.03 is what I want. If anyone thinks this is wrong, please tell me now.

Well, what's wrong is that Systema 6.03s don't exist. You must mean either a Systema 6.04 or a Prometheus 6.03. They're both good, the Systema is cheaper.

RC Collins · June 16th, 2006, 20:31

Ok, I guess I'm going for the Systema 6.04.... has anyone here installed a barrel? Is it hard to do?, or should I leave it to a airsmith / gunsmith?

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June 15th, 2006, 08:55	#1
RC Collins Trader rating Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: canada	Improving accuracy? I'm wondering if any company makes a tight bore barrel for TM AK47's? I have an AK and find the accuracy ok, but could be better. Maybe I'm too picky, but if I fire indoors at a 2 1/2 inch round target (like the little targets you get when you buy a new gun from TM) at 20 feet away, I get maybe 3 shots just inside the circle (but far from center) out of 13 shots. The shots seem to pull to the right, ever so slightly. Adjusting hop-up and my sites does very little, if anything. Anybody else shoot an AK, and find the same problem, or any gun for that matter? ... will a tight bore barrel (if they are made for AK's) help? :salute: __________________ Max Hardcore rocks! :twisted:

June 15th, 2006, 09:29	#2
yanhchan Trader rating Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Scarborough/Richmond Hill ON	Actually thats not horriable. However I am able to do the TM 8-9 rings from 25ft standing. __________________ YANHCHAN'S AIRSMITHING: AEG repair/Tune up/Upgrades V2/V3 mechboxes, rewiring/reconnecting. Ask not what your country can do for you; ask what you can do for your country ~John F. Kennedy

June 15th, 2006, 14:35	#7
The Saint Trader rating Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Quebec	There's always the mystical Tanio Twist barrels... __________________ "The Bird of Hermes is My Name, Eating My Wings to Make Me Tame."

June 15th, 2006, 10:08	#3
Droc Guest Trader rating	many companies make toghtbore barrels for the AK. If its your 1st gun, yah, reality sets in fast. Airsoft guns are the last thing from accurate. but 20ft is a short distance to measure it really. really wanna try it a 50 to 100ft. In general, you want to be able to hit a man sized target at over 100ft. hopup wont do much at 20ft. its ment to flatten your trajectory and usually isnt noticed at short distances. but if its not having an effect at 100ft, then lube it with silicone lube spray.

June 15th, 2006, 10:16	#4
Kid Trader rating Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Moose Jaw, SK	I'm going to have to toss a comment in here. I find tightbores 100% worth it. and... Definately get a Systema. It's not worth spending twice as much to get a Prometheus barrel. I've owned both and noticed little difference.

June 15th, 2006, 10:36	#5
BC_K Banned Trader rating Join Date: Mar 2004	Forget 6.03 & 6.04. Take the big step and get a 6.01mm tightbore!! :wink:

June 15th, 2006, 16:09	#8
Luckyorwhat Trader rating Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: calgar	6.04 is the largest bore, right? __________________ http://www.libertarian.ca/english/li...positions.html

June 15th, 2006, 20:50	#11
RC Collins Trader rating Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: canada	Thanks for the info... I'm definitly getting a tight bore barrel now, but just not sure what size. I'm guessing from what I've read here, a Systema 6.03 is what I want. If anyone thinks this is wrong, please tell me now. I thought at first my in-accuracy problem could be becuase of the upgrade I had done (new gears / 170 spring - 390 fps) but then I thought, if anything, that would make it MORE accurate. __________________ Max Hardcore rocks! :twisted:

June 15th, 2006, 21:35	#12
CDN_Stalker Official ASC Bladesmith Trader rating Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Ottawa, Ont.	Make sure you clean your barrel every thousand shots or so. I've seen shitty accuracy in guns shoot great after a good barrel cleaning. Includes GBBs BTW. Example, my sniper rifles, I clean the inner barrel every 30-40 shots to keep the accuracy & consistancy at it's max. My M700's C&A goes to crap after about 40 rds. __________________ STKR Knives http://www.facebook.com/#!/pages/STK...17036668380871

June 16th, 2006, 20:31	#15
RC Collins Trader rating Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: canada	Ok, I guess I'm going for the Systema 6.04.... has anyone here installed a barrel? Is it hard to do?, or should I leave it to a airsmith / gunsmith? __________________ Max Hardcore rocks! :twisted:

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