What IS the best GBB?

[Renegade)]

This thread will follow in the path of The Best AEG section, and hear your experiences and performance findings on Gas Blow Back pistol's.

Rules for answers:

The gun must be a GAS BLOWBACK PISTOL. The gun must be stock (un-upgraded) but any accessories you have added feel free to include them. Also, Gas SMG's are allowed on this thread. Since the list of them is small they can be added as long as you own or pre-owned one.

You must own the gun, or have previously owned the gun you are commenting on. "I read about this" type of answers are not permitted because we want personal hands-on knowledge of the gun.

The gun must be common, not a rare and over expensive model that players will only ever hear about and read about and never see on a field.

The purpose of this is to find the best "bang for your buck" in a GBB, to find the best looking, best made pistol right out of the box.

Remember again that you must own or have owned the gun you comment on, not give out internet links or use hearsay.

[Renegade)]

I will begin with the TM SIG SAUER P226.
-Great look and solid feel in your hand.
-Blowback is smooth.
-Very accurate and good range for CQB.

As my first GBB I am very impressed with this pistol, it will serve me well on the field.
Recommenced vastly for the new air-soft player who wants a solid affordable pistol.

[LUTNIT]

KSC HW Glock19
+solid construction (in stock form, gets better with upgrades)
+incredibly accurate for a short barrel
+many easy to find upgrades/accessories
+rail to mount laser/tac light
+has a good heft
+can use propane out of the box (sometimes, and only for so long before the slide cracks, but I'm told it can go through at least a few thousand rounds sometimes before that happens)

-only 20 round mags
-its a glock (for those that dont like the look of glocks)
-if there is a small flaw in the plastic slide it may crack right away on propane
-glock mag release so you need a glock holster or you will lose mags in the field (or so I'm told)

[SHaKaL]

WA SV infinity 5''

Great look, great finish, nice weight, accurate and nice blowback. Been using it with propane for more than a year without the slide cracking (waiting for a metal slide) and it shoot in the upper 290 fps.

Only con is the 15 rounds mag...

[Oddjob]

WA Strayer Voigt Infinity 5" IED

+Looks bad ass
+Solid Weight with a non plastic toy feel
+Solid Blow Back
+Easily modable to propane with the AI flow restrictor or an aluminium slide
+Decent amount of parts in the market
+Carl's take down videos will allow even the most basic newbie to strip down and clean then reassemble with ease

- 15 round mag
- Mags are fairly hard to find, mostly have to come from over seas

[JourneyMan]

KWA G19

-Redesigned G17 in compact form, lots of improvements such as a metal recoil guide
-Metal slide out of the box, meaning it can take propane with no worries
-comfy grip IMO
-Very accurate, excellent hopup that can adjust for a wide range of bb weights
-Lots of aftermarket support, including the holy Tanio Koba barrels :-D
-Lots of inexpensive real steal market support, for those that want a highly customized pistol

cons-
-no trades
-slide color is a bit off from body color, though that is almost expected since its metal on plastic
-no real safety

[surebet]

KWA glock 19 with metal slide

+ A workhorse. All KSC/KWA Glocks require little maintenance to perform, and are built to last.
+ Simple operation, easy to understand.
+ Metal slide is the sex.
+ Will withstand drops and bumps, with minor damage.
+ Low cost (290$ from Double Edge)
+ Uogrades are available, and it has a rail interface for lasers and lights.
+ Mags can be found anywhere. A-NY-WHERE.
+ Can take propane stock. In fact, you should almost exclusivly feed it propane.

- Trades are etched, not stamped.
- Front sight is not that secure, might fall off as with all KSC/KWA Glocks.

** Always check with the retailer if the gun has trades or not. I've heard that some KWA Glocks don't come with trades, but mine did. ***

TM Hicapa 5.1

+Big
+badass
+Solid
+Beasty Blowback(I dont mean beasty like "wow", I mean beasty like"holy shiiiiiiit"
+Huge 31 round capacity
+Ultra fast cycle time with little cooldown effect
+Mind blowing accuracy for a GBB
+Ball-busting range for a GBB
+Did I mention it can basically outshoot a stock AEG?
+Excellent variety of upgrades and parts(see Illusions meatbasher)

-Hot days, propne can blow the oring back...easily fixed
-Mag release can be tripped by a holster and the weight of that giant mag can cause it to fall out(rare, and fixable).

out of the box performance is staggering when compared to other GBBs. Sure, the Glocks may be better for super close CQB, but when any range is involved(ie: GBB field games), the hicapa has a noticable advantage. Be it outranging other guns, its percision accuracy, or the fact that others have to reload 2x as the hicapa does, its simply a beast. As a secondary, I cannot think of any gun that I would want more.

I have used WA guns, KSC glocks, TM sig(very close), and others, but none really surpass the TM Hicapa 5.1 for performance.

[Mantelope]

WA SVI 5"...

+Best feel of any GBB, at least any I've ever fired. That's what matters to me the most.
+Performance is quite good considering the age of the design. I've got a non-SCW and it's firing pretty consistently out to 60ft. Apparently the SCW3 guns are lasers.

-Money pits.

[Renegade)]

Excelent! All good, informative posts, good job guys, keep it up!

[Captain Tenneal]

TM Sig-Sauer P226

+It's unique, chances are less that somone's gonna have one of these than the Hi-Capas/Glocks/Berettas out there.
+Smooth and Crisp recoil, running stock with propane.
+Picatinny Rail
+Very nice range/accuracy in CQB and outdoors. (Its techncially the only gun i've ever gotten kills with outdoors)
+Excellent contoured grip, even better with a Hogue hand-all grip on it.
+Excellent gas mileage

-Plastic slide is a bit soft, and shows dents from getting shot up (then again this goes for all other plastic guns as well).
-Somewhat lack of cosmetic upgrades (compared to other guns), including a non-railed version.

[Carvs]

KJW M92F

+Full Metal Contruction
+Smooth blowback
+Easy Operation
+Can run flawlessly with Green/Propane out of box
+Good/realistic weight
+Can accept all TM counterparts
+Mags Redially Available
+Workhorse-Can survive several drops, kicks, and any abuse
+Great *Cha Chink* sound of slide when shot of pulled back
+Great Accuracy (atleast mine is) -Good enough to get easy one shot kills at 40-50ft
+Great power (280-300 i think it is)
+Nice Size
+Cosmeticially Upgradeable
+Internally Upgradeable
+Easy Maitenence
+GREAT if you have a low budjet, ultra bang for your buck (only 275 off of Tru)
+Great for all players

-Pot Metal
-Weak, shitty, safety(easy fix, takes 5 minutes)
-Bad gas milage (2 mags)
-Shitty trigger spring (accepts real steel counterpart)
-No Trades
-Shows wear easy (Metal) But I find this a good thing. Dunno about the rest of you.
-Oil it properly or else!

I have used several KJW M9s before, maby it was just them, but even on propane, it looked like it struggled to cycle the slide.

[Renegade)]

Originally Posted by Droc

I have used several KJW M9s before, maby it was just them, but even on propane, it looked like it struggled to cycle the slide.

I agree, although they look good, and the all metal is nice, it also feels solid in your hand. The performance of it just turned me off on the sale and I passed it up for ToRN's SIG (very pleased with the SIG P226).

It was inacurate more times then not and like Droc said, it really seemed to struggle with every shot.

Good info so far. Very helpful for choosing a GBB with all the personal information.

[stev0__]

TM Hicappa 4.3
pros
- very accurate
- great kick
- will shoot as fast as you can pull the trigger
- large mag capacity
- works well with any type of gas
- easy to disassemble and reassemble
- it can share mags with the tm hicappa 5.1
- good range and accuracy
- it doesn't hurt your wallet

cons
- can't really think of any at the moment

basically the same as 5.1 only smaller