SA/VFC Gen 4 Glock 17

[ARC-74]

The most realistic looking Gen 4, and it's not $800.00


Discussed on arnies
http://arniesairsoft.co.uk/forums/in...n4-w-markings/

[MaybeStopCalling]

I like it. Now, if only it was compatible with TM internal parts...

[Sequential]

I'll have one soon.

[Wilkie]

Very nice. I'm interested!


That b/s/t reference is funny too

[bum_q]

I had it, it was nice and all. Just didn't like how the parts weren't TM compatible for the most part and parts pretty much had to be found in Asia. Otherwise, pretty sweet pistol

[shelcoof]

Originally Posted by bum_q

I had it, it was nice and all. Just didn't like how the parts weren't TM compatible for the most part and parts pretty much had to be found in Asia. Otherwise, pretty sweet pistol

Can you confirm if the magazine catch had an enhanced metal piece that prevented it from wearing?

Same as the Gen 3 magazine catch by Starks?

TM Magazine catch was all plastic and did not have the metal piece.

[bum_q]

Honestly, I didn't have it for long. I broke the outer barrel and then had a hell of a time finding one and when I did find one didn't fit too well so I sold it. I can assure you the externals were quite nice though along with the trades.

[shelcoof]

Originally Posted by bum_q

Honestly, I didn't have it for long. I broke the outer barrel and then had a hell of a time finding one and when I did find one didn't fit too well so I sold it. I can assure you the externals were quite nice though along with the trades.

I'm sure it was decent.... I use to own a couple of stark arm Glocks. Right idea in terms of enhanced parts.... it was just a shitty gun.

All I'm really looking for are some replacement Gen 4 Magazine Catches for the Gen 4 Frame.

I'd rather stick with HK3/WE for my Glocks... the ones I have are still running like a champ and any issues can be easily remedied... not to mention majority of the parts are TM compatible.

[cookedham]

Originally Posted by shelcoof

I'm sure it was decent.... I use to own a couple of stark arm Glocks. Right idea in terms of enhanced parts.... it was just a shitty gun.

All I'm really looking for are some replacement Gen 4 Magazine Catches for the Gen 4 Frame.

I'd rather stick with HK3/WE for my Glocks... the ones I have are still running like a champ and any issues can be easily remedied... not to mention majority of the parts are TM compatible.

U used to own couple of stark arms? Are u sure? It only came out for 2 years and there are no where u can get a piece in Canada

And how bad it is? I used to own HK3P glock, it was a piece of Shit, u can't even put in holster properly its fucking off the spec

[MaybeStopCalling]

The TM doesn't fit in a 9mm/.40 holster either. They're off spec and wider than RS- you have to run a .45 holster.

[Danke]

Stark Glocks have been available in Canada for a couple years now. Pretty well since they first came out.

[cookedham]

Originally Posted by Danke

Stark Glocks have been available in Canada for a couple years now. Pretty well since they first came out.

Where to get one? Please help

My friend got one, it perfectly fit in his RS safariland holster

[cookedham]

Originally Posted by Danke

Stark Glocks have been available in Canada for a couple years now. Pretty well since they first came out.

I m referring to the full trade one, not the original one without a trade

[shelcoof]

Originally Posted by cookedham

U used to own couple of stark arms? Are u sure? It only came out for 2 years and there are no where u can get a piece in Canada

And how bad it is? I used to own HK3P glock, it was a piece of Shit, u can't even put in holster properly its fucking off the spec

Yes I'm sure I've owned a couple of them... their design is pretty different from TM and other clones. Not sure why you'd question whether or not I've owned them. Just because your unable to find them does not mean they do not exist here in Canada.

How bad was it? This is speaking from experience... issues will vary with other individuals. Well both Glock's slide got stock and would not return to battery. They were just locked into place and would not budge one bit. I still have no clue till this day why both of them did it.

There were a ton of problems with the Stark Arms Glocks. First of all they are G18C internals meaning you can't use G17 TM upper or lower with them

They actually addressed a few issues that were present in both TM and HK3 Glocks like the metal plate on the Magazine catch. Though some of the plates would just fall right off causing you to require a replacement. I've seen current mag catches from Stark and the quality looks a lot better than the time I use to own them.

The double spring guide was also very bad because the plastic holding the spring in place would break. Means you would need to replace it. If you used lets say a guarder or something that isn't stark the Slide would grind and get stuck there occasionally. You sort of needed that buffer spring so that it doesn't extend too far where it gets stuck.

What else oh yhaa and you need the stock barrel in order for it to work with the lower frame. The design and measurement there is just completely different with TM. You needed a Stark Arms barrel or else you were screwed.

There's more but I'm far too lazy to type every little issue I have with the gun.

As for HK3/WE the frame is the exact same dimensions as a TM. Slide is bit more square and less rounded than other slides but that shouldn't be a problem. I've fit this in a real serpa holster fine. With no issues. In fact I've fit all 6 of my HK3/WE Glocks fine in my serpa holsters and that's not including the TM builds.

I mean HK3/WE will definitely have issues but the most common ones can easily be addressed and fixed. Its the same with TM as well. A stock TM stock have issues but addressing them and fixing them is quit easy.

[Danke]

Originally Posted by cookedham

I m referring to the full trade one, not the original one without a trade

Yep. First ones on here came up for sale with full trades.

The folks who were selling are now out; that's the way it goes in the world of airsoft. When you see a new release of something you want you better buy it then.