Airsoft Canada

Go Back   Airsoft Canada > Discussion > Airsoft Guns Discussion
Home Forums Register Gallery FAQ Calendar
Retailers Community News/Info International Retailers IRC Today's Posts

Building

:

Airsoft Guns Discussion

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old September 26th, 2005, 15:30   #1
k2x5
 
k2x5's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Barrie, Ont.
Send a message via ICQ to k2x5 Send a message via MSN to k2x5
Building

Hi All,

Just wondering if it is legal to build your own Airsoft rifles or not. If it is, what kind of muzzle velocity and ammunition regulations are there for airsoft? I'm not interested in selling the rifles, just in personal manufacturing.

Thanks.
k2x5 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old September 26th, 2005, 15:35   #2
ToRN
 
ToRN's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Edmonton, Alberta
Send a message via AIM to ToRN Send a message via MSN to ToRN Send a message via Skype™ to ToRN
noob question.

there is nothing wrong with building your own.

But you wouldn't want to, unless you already know what you are doing, which I am assuming you don't, since you asked this question in the first place.

My reccomendation, buy a TM, it won't do you wrong, but first, get age verified.
__________________
PSN ID SCRATCH_043
Quote:
Originally Posted by MadMorbius View Post
Give your head a shake, man. You don't jump out of a shaky car so you can ride in one that's on fire.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Duff_Man_in_CADPATs
I also noticed for the first time that Bod sounds a lot like Jango Fett.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Strelok View Post
I like the part where he got banned.
ToRN is offline   Reply With Quote
Old September 26th, 2005, 15:49   #3
Bob the Angry Potato
*AV Status Suspended pending trade resolution*
 
Bob the Angry Potato's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: A pile of empty boxes and broken dreams.
Send a message via MSN to Bob the Angry Potato
Quote:
Originally Posted by k2x5
Hi All,

Just wondering if it is legal to build your own Airsoft rifles or not. If it is, what kind of muzzle velocity and ammunition regulations are there for airsoft? I'm not interested in selling the rifles, just in personal manufacturing.

Thanks.
The muzzle velocity HAS to be under 495 FPS, to comply with federal law. However, (in my opinion) you should probably keep it from 280-350 if you want to play Airsoft with it.
Bob the Angry Potato is offline   Reply With Quote
Old September 26th, 2005, 15:51   #4
BC_K
Banned
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob the Angry Potato
Quote:
Originally Posted by k2x5
Hi All,

Just wondering if it is legal to build your own Airsoft rifles or not. If it is, what kind of muzzle velocity and ammunition regulations are there for airsoft? I'm not interested in selling the rifles, just in personal manufacturing.

Thanks.
The muzzle velocity HAS to be under 495 FPS, to comply with federal law. However, (in my opinion) you should probably keep it from 280-350 if you want to play Airsoft with it.
Is there not a muzzle energy limit as well? Im pretty sure there is but dont remember what it is.

Anywho. If I may ask, how abouts you planning on building your own gun? Fibreglass? CNC? Ect..

I too am also interested in creating my own gun, well body actually, I'd just put a TM V3 mechbox in it.
BC_K is offline   Reply With Quote
Old September 26th, 2005, 16:06   #5
Daes
 
Daes's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Victoria, BC
Built a piston system from PVC piping. Shot farther than a Crappytire springer but the trigger mechanism was crap. Basically it resembled a breach load; pull back, lock, then flick the arm to release... crappy...

Next project was using an airhorn as an air source. Slow filling, one shot, and 80 psi limit meant that this gun sucked for any speed of reloading.

Next project was a potatoe gun style, small tube, large chamber = BOOM. project was destroyed...

Final Project. Butchered paintall gun with 5 6mm tubes = gernade launcher. Works okay, get about 6-8 shots for each little CO2 cell, lauches about 30-60 feet but due to no o-rings, bb's will slide out...

Conclusion? Just buy the damn Airsoft guns and work from there. The cost of all these projects meant I could have bought a gear box itself...

-Daes-
Daes is offline   Reply With Quote
Old September 26th, 2005, 17:54   #6
Greylocks
 
Greylocks's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Gatineau, Quebec (Near Ottawa)
Do you have the proper licenses to build guns? If not, I suggest you check the legal side of this project first.
Greylocks is offline   Reply With Quote
Old September 26th, 2005, 18:09   #7
ToRN
 
ToRN's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Edmonton, Alberta
Send a message via AIM to ToRN Send a message via MSN to ToRN Send a message via Skype™ to ToRN
Grey, it is perfectly legal to make even a FIREARM in Canada, as long as it is capable of being licensed as a non-restricted or restricted firearm, and you have the proper PAL for that class.

Why would there be any requirement for building your own airsoft gun?
__________________
PSN ID SCRATCH_043
Quote:
Originally Posted by MadMorbius View Post
Give your head a shake, man. You don't jump out of a shaky car so you can ride in one that's on fire.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Duff_Man_in_CADPATs
I also noticed for the first time that Bod sounds a lot like Jango Fett.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Strelok View Post
I like the part where he got banned.
ToRN is offline   Reply With Quote
Old September 26th, 2005, 18:37   #8
Tankdude
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: East Coast, New Brunswick
Do I have to register my nail gun? My glue gun? My nes gun?

Just because it is called a gun doesn't mean you have to have goverment premission to make it.

If he makes it with intent to break the law, that is another story.
Tankdude is offline   Reply With Quote
Old September 26th, 2005, 20:12   #9
attack-beaver
 
attack-beaver's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: calgary
isn't the limit 1 joule???.
attack-beaver is offline   Reply With Quote
Old September 26th, 2005, 21:00   #10
Greylocks
 
Greylocks's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Gatineau, Quebec (Near Ottawa)
There are requirements for building a replica from scratch. Check those out. And a PAL wont help you for one second, not even the Prohib Class.
Greylocks is offline   Reply With Quote
Old September 26th, 2005, 21:02   #11
Conscript
AKaholic
 
Conscript's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: GTA
Quote:
Originally Posted by attack-beacer
isn't the limit 1 joule???.
Thats in Britain for Airsoft guns. I think the limit here is 500-600FPS which is more than 1 joule when converted.
Conscript is offline   Reply With Quote
Old September 26th, 2005, 21:16   #12
ancorp
AK Guru
 
ancorp's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Vaughan, Ontario (near Toronto)
The fps limit is 500, the energy limit is 5 or 7j i belive...

Cheers,
Alex
ancorp is offline   Reply With Quote
Old September 26th, 2005, 22:00   #13
ToRN
 
ToRN's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Edmonton, Alberta
Send a message via AIM to ToRN Send a message via MSN to ToRN Send a message via Skype™ to ToRN
Grey, if you read my post, I say that building REAL firearms is perfectly legal, I said that

and there IS nothing about building airsoft, people do it all the time. All I am saying, is that you will get in over your head if you don't know what you are doing.
__________________
PSN ID SCRATCH_043
Quote:
Originally Posted by MadMorbius View Post
Give your head a shake, man. You don't jump out of a shaky car so you can ride in one that's on fire.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Duff_Man_in_CADPATs
I also noticed for the first time that Bod sounds a lot like Jango Fett.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Strelok View Post
I like the part where he got banned.
ToRN is offline   Reply With Quote
Old September 26th, 2005, 22:23   #14
mcguyver
 
mcguyver's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Northern Alberta
actually the requirements for manufacture of a "replica" firearm is spelled out in the cfc website. a license is required with a license fee of $1250 cdn. and you consent to possessing no more than 3 of any one type of replica and an annual accounting of what was built and for whom and periodic random inspections of your facility of manufacture and storage by either the cfo or rcmp. i know cause we looked into this last year and the hassles were too immense so our local retailer just got the F.B.L for prohibited devices instead of the manufacture license. you also need a similar license to manufacture any firearm legally whether or not it is restricted. building a gun from "mail-order" components and assembling yourself falls into this distincttion. remember parts are generally legal(unless specified otherwise ie. silencers) but the receiver of any gun is the regulated part and customs may legally seize an airsoft receiver and there isn't much you can do about it. for the effort,added cost and unwanted gov't scrutiny of a manufactring operation, just buy the gun ready-made from a retailer, check out www.cfc.gc.ca everything you need to know is there.

btw the legal limit for a firearm for the purpose of license and registration is 500 f.p.s. AND 5.8 joules of muzzle energy. both criteria must be met. if you have a gun that shoots 900 f.p.s. with .12g bb let's say but does not have 5.8 joules of muzzle energy, it's not a regulated firearm. period!!!
mcguyver is offline   Reply With Quote
Old September 26th, 2005, 22:28   #15
ToRN
 
ToRN's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Edmonton, Alberta
Send a message via AIM to ToRN Send a message via MSN to ToRN Send a message via Skype™ to ToRN
for replicas, yes, for airsoft, no. as they are not defined as repilcas.
__________________
PSN ID SCRATCH_043
Quote:
Originally Posted by MadMorbius View Post
Give your head a shake, man. You don't jump out of a shaky car so you can ride in one that's on fire.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Duff_Man_in_CADPATs
I also noticed for the first time that Bod sounds a lot like Jango Fett.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Strelok View Post
I like the part where he got banned.
ToRN is offline   Reply With Quote
ReplyTop


Go Back   Airsoft Canada > Discussion > Airsoft Guns Discussion

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off


Airsoft Canada

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 11:00.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.