help me decide please =)

RevengeX · September 8th, 2005, 00:27

i couldnt find ne reviews on these guns so im asking u guys for opinions :mrgreen: im think of buying an m16 rifle and i came down to ethier a G&G GR16-A3 http://www.rangersairsoft.com/produc...ns.php?type=10 third down. or a ics m16-a3 http://www.rangersairsoft.com/produc...uns.php?type=2 third one down thanks for your recommendations :innocent:

Jackals · September 8th, 2005, 00:30

Both are good guns, but its really up to your presonal preference.

RevengeX · September 8th, 2005, 00:32

is there much of a difference between them?

Jackals · September 8th, 2005, 00:36

Not really, I have heard good things about both. If its your first gun, you may want to consider sticking with some a little cheaper like a TM, but its all personal choice. What works for you, may not work for someone else.

You may also want to go to an actually game and see what guns people use.

I have modded my M4A1 into a C7A2, so you can do some neat things to your guns.

Freedom Fighter · September 8th, 2005, 00:37

I usually trash these threads because I'm a real big mean prick, but I figured since I'm in a good mood I'll just place it here in the Airsoft Gun Discussion section.

Good luck with your decision.

manchovie · September 8th, 2005, 00:48

actually you shouldve trashed it because the information given was false too. the ics and the g&g are very different internally. ics has the split mechbox design and the gun has olympic arms trades and a grey coloring. the mags are diffent too, the g&g comes with a thermold style mag.

RevengeX · September 8th, 2005, 01:17

in terms of performance there both the same right?

Trader rating · September 8th, 2005, 01:19

TM guns work great, but platic and have barrel wobble
all verson 2 internals(not great)

G36 and AK47 guns run version 3 internals and are damm solid

Jackals · September 8th, 2005, 02:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by manchovie

actually you shouldve trashed it because the information given was false too. the ics and the g&g are very different internally. ics has the split mechbox design and the gun has olympic arms trades and a grey coloring. the mags are diffent too, the g&g comes with a thermold style mag.

Not to start an argument in the guys thread, but he is a noob and probably doesnt know much about mechboxs, he wants preformance, they are about even, why confuse the hell outta the guy.

mcguyver · September 8th, 2005, 02:14

g&g has first rate internals, whereas the ics has nearly identical internals to a tm (plastic spring guide,bushings,cylinder head,etc.) but super easy to upgrade. reliability on ics as good as tm (have both), but all g&g our team has (4 in total) have gone down (2 on motors and 2 on gears). top-notch internals do not always mean flawless reliability. the skill and experience in assembly means everything. ics and tm are 2 of biggest makers with many years experience between them. just some thoughts to help confuse you even more (sorry).

btw check out canadian airsoft in alberta. they are the biggest ics retailer in canada. best pricing too.

Trader rating · September 8th, 2005, 08:33

G&G have nicer bodies though
and isnt there a giud here on ASC on how the fix the problamatic ICS M4?

If I had my choice, Id run the G&G

Nocturnal · September 8th, 2005, 10:21

problematic ICS M4... meaning you may have to swap out a whole bunch of parts.

honestly you may or may not encounter problems with either of the guns.

Why? because you don't know if you'll get one working smoothly out of the box since it's your first gun. You don't know if it sounds unhealthy!~

Just pick one and buy it.

Just a word of caution, with all new players it is suggested by some in the community to try a Tokyo Marui AEG first for its reliability out of the box just to get you started.
This is to get you into the game without having to see your gun spending more time in the gun shop rather than the field. (unless thats what you want to do?)

Good luck on your choice.

GiordanoWC · September 8th, 2005, 10:27

i hear G&P makes nice armalite replicas, any opinions?

Nocturnal · September 8th, 2005, 12:43

G&P doesn't have the M16A3 model that he wants.

Blackthorne · September 8th, 2005, 13:00

You can get anupgraded M16, full metal on this board, with upgraded bushings and spring (internals) for around $600.

I am looking for one now as my primary for the feild.

ADVANTAGE:
Gun is upgraded and probably shoot at a good rate

DIS-ADVANTAGE:
Gun has wear and tear, and you miss the fun (and learning experience) of doing your own upgrades

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September 8th, 2005, 00:27	#1
RevengeX Trader rating Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: calgary	help me decide please =) i couldnt find ne reviews on these guns so im asking u guys for opinions :mrgreen: im think of buying an m16 rifle and i came down to ethier a G&G GR16-A3 http://www.rangersairsoft.com/produc...ns.php?type=10 third down. or a ics m16-a3 http://www.rangersairsoft.com/produc...uns.php?type=2 third one down thanks for your recommendations :innocent:

September 8th, 2005, 00:30	#2
Jackals Trader rating Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Ottawa. Ontario	Both are good guns, but its really up to your presonal preference. __________________ Ottawa's Local Airsoft Site: www.ottawavalleyairsoft.ca

September 8th, 2005, 00:36	#4
Jackals Trader rating Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Ottawa. Ontario	Not really, I have heard good things about both. If its your first gun, you may want to consider sticking with some a little cheaper like a TM, but its all personal choice. What works for you, may not work for someone else. You may also want to go to an actually game and see what guns people use. I have modded my M4A1 into a C7A2, so you can do some neat things to your guns. __________________ Ottawa's Local Airsoft Site: www.ottawavalleyairsoft.ca

September 8th, 2005, 00:32	#3
RevengeX Trader rating Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: calgary	is there much of a difference between them?

September 8th, 2005, 00:37	#5
Freedom Fighter Trader rating Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Mississauga, ON	I usually trash these threads because I'm a real big mean prick, but I figured since I'm in a good mood I'll just place it here in the Airsoft Gun Discussion section. Good luck with your decision. __________________ Few individuals would view themselves as barbarous, no, instead they view themselves in a different light, a distorted reality that justifies who they are and what they have done.

September 8th, 2005, 00:48	#6
manchovie Trader rating Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Toronto	actually you shouldve trashed it because the information given was false too. the ics and the g&g are very different internally. ics has the split mechbox design and the gun has olympic arms trades and a grey coloring. the mags are diffent too, the g&g comes with a thermold style mag. __________________ experienced toronto gun doctor, hundreds of guns serviced manchovie gun doc thread! my b/s rating

September 8th, 2005, 01:17	#7
RevengeX Trader rating Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: calgary	in terms of performance there both the same right?

September 8th, 2005, 01:19	#8
Droc Guest Trader rating	TM guns work great, but platic and have barrel wobble all verson 2 internals(not great) G36 and AK47 guns run version 3 internals and are damm solid

September 8th, 2005, 02:14	#10
mcguyver Trader rating Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Northern Alberta	g&g has first rate internals, whereas the ics has nearly identical internals to a tm (plastic spring guide,bushings,cylinder head,etc.) but super easy to upgrade. reliability on ics as good as tm (have both), but all g&g our team has (4 in total) have gone down (2 on motors and 2 on gears). top-notch internals do not always mean flawless reliability. the skill and experience in assembly means everything. ics and tm are 2 of biggest makers with many years experience between them. just some thoughts to help confuse you even more (sorry). btw check out canadian airsoft in alberta. they are the biggest ics retailer in canada. best pricing too.

September 8th, 2005, 08:33	#11
Droc Guest Trader rating	G&G have nicer bodies though and isnt there a giud here on ASC on how the fix the problamatic ICS M4? If I had my choice, Id run the G&G

September 8th, 2005, 10:21	#12
Nocturnal oO? Trader rating Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Stouffville, ON	problematic ICS M4... meaning you may have to swap out a whole bunch of parts. honestly you may or may not encounter problems with either of the guns. Why? because you don't know if you'll get one working smoothly out of the box since it's your first gun. You don't know if it sounds unhealthy!~ Just pick one and buy it. Just a word of caution, with all new players it is suggested by some in the community to try a Tokyo Marui AEG first for its reliability out of the box just to get you started. This is to get you into the game without having to see your gun spending more time in the gun shop rather than the field. (unless thats what you want to do?) Good luck on your choice. __________________ *"SI VIS PACEM, PARA BELLUM"*

September 8th, 2005, 10:27	#13
GiordanoWC Trader rating Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Toronto, Corso Italia (st.clair for the non-wops)	i hear G&P makes nice armalite replicas, any opinions? __________________ You may not like my opinion... there is a very simple solution to that: Close your eyes. Left wing love for airsoft. ++A NOI!!!++ CAMPIONI DEL MONDO, 1934,1938,1982,2006

September 8th, 2005, 12:43	#14
Nocturnal oO? Trader rating Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Stouffville, ON	G&P doesn't have the M16A3 model that he wants. __________________ *"SI VIS PACEM, PARA BELLUM"*

September 8th, 2005, 13:00	#15
Blackthorne A Total Bastard Trader rating Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Consecon, Ontario	Buy Used You can get anupgraded M16, full metal on this board, with upgraded bushings and spring (internals) for around $600. I am looking for one now as my primary for the feild. ADVANTAGE: Gun is upgraded and probably shoot at a good rate DIS-ADVANTAGE: Gun has wear and tear, and you miss the fun (and learning experience) of doing your own upgrades __________________ VINCITE OMNIMODO

help me decide please =)

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