KSC P226 & USP 45

Rob · August 5th, 2005, 00:08

Picture from Arnies

Looks like ksc is planning a sig p226 and hk usp 45, they have the shell done (first injection test as stated on arnies) but no guts, any speculation as to when we might see these?

what i find amazing is that no one eles posted this info!

Eddie · August 5th, 2005, 00:29

Another good quality P226. But the USP .45 should have a better hammer and not the same as the USP Compact. The USP .45 Should have came out not to long after the USP Compact seeing the internals should be the same other then the front end and magwell area.

KSC is also coming out with a Colt 1911A1
http://www.arniesairsoft.co.uk/news/.../ksc_M1911.jpg

Xepharo · August 5th, 2005, 00:51

Finally a nice quality USP45 coming out. I can't wait to get my hands on it.
weeee :tup:

Suspect187 · August 5th, 2005, 00:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xepharo

Finally a nice quality USP45 coming out. I can't wait to get my hands on it.
weeee :tup:

Ya I wouldn't mind picking up one of those either.

Gooseman · August 5th, 2005, 01:29

KSC Are also doing ANOTHER 1911 ... it seems everyone has to put in their 2 cents for the 1911. I don't understand why they'd want to do a 226 though. The only thing they could do over TM is to introduce better plastic frame/slide.. I don't see how they could improve on TM's offering other than that. Maybe increase the power output but in terms of accuracy and blowback, TM's offering is as good as it gets.
I am slightly hyped about the HK USP .45, though I would have much preferred a H&K P2000. The Tanaka P8 Heavyweight is a great gun and it's hard to see how you could better it. I also have a KJW P8 metal version and that's a damn solid gun.
It's a shame to see all these manufacturers "wasting their time" making guns that are already modelled adequately enough. I do wish they would try harder to get licences for guns that haven't been done before like a Five-Seven, P2000, Steyr M-series, Sig GSR.

ILLusion · August 5th, 2005, 03:27

mmm... Five-SeveN... still waiting for that day that happens...

Xepharo · August 5th, 2005, 03:30

I remember seeing this one article from http://www.renegaderecon.com/ that either KSC or some other famous gas pistol manufactuer tried to make FN 5-7, but failed to do so, because the design was too hard.

but yeah, they shouldn't kept on making guns that are already out. However, it be good to see redefined guns like the USP45, I'm sure it be a better quality than the KJW P8. As for SIG P226, I have no idea why they are making that. Then there's the 1911s... there's like thousands of them made by WA haha.

Yuu · August 5th, 2005, 09:55

Why not make 226? It seem ideal to for a competation against TM. As for USP.45 i'm jumping with joyness.

firemachine69 · August 6th, 2005, 02:14

No metal slide = no purchase.

Rumpel Felt · August 6th, 2005, 02:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by firemachine69

No metal slide = no purchase.

Wow someone who finally thinks like me and dislikes plastic crap aswell. :tup:

firemachine69 · August 6th, 2005, 03:08

Seriously. When will manufacturers catch on? There shouldn't be a need to require an aftermarket slide (let's just start with the slide, not even the frame, buut again, highly preferrable) that costs almost if not more the the GBB itself. Monkey metal is cheap, and readily available. Use it, and quit using crappy molds and plastics!

Kid · August 6th, 2005, 03:40

when they go to metal, the only bad side is that they lose their Japanese market due to replica laws there, as well as players looking for a cheap gun that they really do not care about its quality, as is very common in the states

Swoo · August 7th, 2005, 19:01

YES A KSC USP! :tup:

DuffMan · August 7th, 2005, 19:41

Well, on guns like the USP and 5-7, the real deal doesn't use metal on their slide either. On those, I'd pay big for a slide that closely simulates the real deal's composition while maintaining durability and integrity.

Gooseman · August 8th, 2005, 00:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by Duff_Man_in_CADPATs

Well, on guns like the USP and 5-7, the real deal doesn't use metal on their slide either. On those, I'd pay big for a slide that closely simulates the real deal's composition while maintaining durability and integrity.

The slide on the USP is metal. The frame is plastic.
The slide on the FN Five-Seven is part plastic and part steel. In fact this is the only gun that I know of that has a slide even partially composed of plastic..Someone feel free to correct me, but I've handled both of these at a gunstore and the shop owner there described to me what the Five-Seven slide was composed of. Also, the Five-Seven is FREAKISHLY light for a real gun. I was amazed at how toy like it felt..

ok, I just looked up the 5-7 slide composition on google and found this:
"The construction of the Five-seveN pistol is pretty nifty. The slide is made of a stamping of chrome moly steel, with a machined steel breechblock segment, and covered with a polymer shroud. At first it looks as if the slide is polymer, but that is simply a protective cover."
http://www.findarticles.com/p/articl...24/ai_57886949

And this for the USP:
"Major metal components on both the USP and Special Operations Pistol are also corrosion resistant. Outside metal surfaces like the one-piece machined steel slide are protected by an extremely hard, nitro-gas carburized black oxide finish. Interal metal parts, including springs, are coated with a special Dow Corning anticorrosion process that reduces friction and wear."
http://remtek.com/arms/hk/civ/usp/usp.htm

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August 5th, 2005, 00:08	#1
Rob Trader rating Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Vancouver, BC	KSC P226 & USP 45 Picture from Arnies Looks like ksc is planning a sig p226 and hk usp 45, they have the shell done (first injection test as stated on arnies) but no guts, any speculation as to when we might see these? what i find amazing is that no one eles posted this info!

August 5th, 2005, 00:51	#3
Xepharo Trader rating Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Vancouver, Canada	-_- Finally a nice quality USP45 coming out. I can't wait to get my hands on it. weeee :tup:

August 5th, 2005, 03:27	#6
ILLusion GBB Whisperer Trader rating Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Toronto	mmm... Five-SeveN... still waiting for that day that happens... __________________ *Advanced Airsoft Armaments and Enhancements* Quick to the gun, sure of your grip. Quick to the threat, sure of your shot. Diligentia, Vis, Celeritas Accuracy, Power, Speed

August 5th, 2005, 00:29	#2
Eddie Trader rating Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Surrey, BC	Another good quality P226. But the USP .45 should have a better hammer and not the same as the USP Compact. The USP .45 Should have came out not to long after the USP Compact seeing the internals should be the same other then the front end and magwell area. KSC is also coming out with a Colt 1911A1 http://www.arniesairsoft.co.uk/news/.../ksc_M1911.jpg

August 5th, 2005, 01:29	#5
Gooseman Trader rating Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: if u dont like my sidewalk, get off my driving	KSC Are also doing ANOTHER 1911 ... it seems everyone has to put in their 2 cents for the 1911. I don't understand why they'd want to do a 226 though. The only thing they could do over TM is to introduce better plastic frame/slide.. I don't see how they could improve on TM's offering other than that. Maybe increase the power output but in terms of accuracy and blowback, TM's offering is as good as it gets. I am slightly hyped about the HK USP .45, though I would have much preferred a H&K P2000. The Tanaka P8 Heavyweight is a great gun and it's hard to see how you could better it. I also have a KJW P8 metal version and that's a damn solid gun. It's a shame to see all these manufacturers "wasting their time" making guns that are already modelled adequately enough. I do wish they would try harder to get licences for guns that haven't been done before like a Five-Seven, P2000, Steyr M-series, Sig GSR.

August 5th, 2005, 03:30	#7
Xepharo Trader rating Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Vancouver, Canada	-_- I remember seeing this one article from http://www.renegaderecon.com/ that either KSC or some other famous gas pistol manufactuer tried to make FN 5-7, but failed to do so, because the design was too hard. but yeah, they shouldn't kept on making guns that are already out. However, it be good to see redefined guns like the USP45, I'm sure it be a better quality than the KJW P8. As for SIG P226, I have no idea why they are making that. Then there's the 1911s... there's like thousands of them made by WA haha.

August 6th, 2005, 03:40	#12
Kid Trader rating Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Moose Jaw, SK	when they go to metal, the only bad side is that they lose their Japanese market due to replica laws there, as well as players looking for a cheap gun that they really do not care about its quality, as is very common in the states

August 7th, 2005, 19:01	#13
Swoo Trader rating Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Vancouver	YES A KSC USP! :tup:

August 7th, 2005, 19:41	#14
DuffMan Trader rating Join Date: Feb 2004	Well, on guns like the USP and 5-7, the real deal doesn't use metal on their slide either. On those, I'd pay big for a slide that closely simulates the real deal's composition while maintaining durability and integrity. __________________ "He resisted. I asked him to comply." "Telling him to 'eat it, bitch' is not really a request."

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