Shotgun lover, TM or Maruzen?

[Soul oWar]

I'm looking at two models

Maruzen CA870 CQB Stock - 149us

Tokyo Marui M3 Super 90 - 162us

Give me your thoughts on these gun, I'm really buying one of tehse two.. (unless of ocurse you guys tell me scrap and take taht one... well you know that one...)

Thanks
Jo

[firemachine69]

Where's Greylocks when you need him?

[The Saint]

First of all, why are your prices American? You do know that you can't buy guns from the States, right?

Next, the guns. Maruzen CQB is what its name says, a CQB weapon. It's got a short(er) barrel and shoots only 1 BB per pump. The TM Sup' 90 has three longer barrels and shoots 3 BBs per pump, but can possible experience two sorts of problem: misfeeds and tri-nozzle jams. Search the forum to find out what those are.

Personally, I'd go with the TM, try the SPAS, no misfeed problems from what I've heard. The Maruzen is closer to a springer pistol than I'd like.

[Rumpel Felt]

If the Maruzen one you are talking about is the full metal one, then you will be getting a nice realistic piece but only one bb per shot will not satisfy your shotgun urge.

The TM ones are plasticy but are pretty reliable and give a good effect. Plus they make the two most wanted shotguns out there. The SPAS and M3 use the same system, same barrel length, etc. just have diffrent "skin"

[RAS_Jackson]

Agreed Maruzen is nice if full metal.. most of the time it is, if your skimishing alot i would go TM, but look into the shorty version, unless your 6FT tall. i find the Full stock hard to manuver around.

[Soul oWar]

So far spas 12 seems to be the way to go. I like the look of the full M3 but not of the shorty but teh spas 12 seems nice.

SO teh trice thingy blocking they break teh loading process fairly common problem or most get away without ever happening?

[Rumpel Felt]

I know your French but ..... English 10I, the word is THE, spelt tee, ehtch, ea.

[dman]

I'm pretty sure that's more of a type-o than a language barrier.

Anyways, I've had my TM M3 FullStock (shortened barrel) for about 6 months and it's a great shotgun. I've heard of the problem with the nozzle breaking, but I've heard that usually only happens when you double pump the shotgun. Some people do that so that they can shoot out 6 (or more) BB's at a time. It's a cool thing to do, but will break your shotgun eventually.

Otherwise, if you take care of the shotgun, these things are built by TM, and are rather solid in the long run, provided you keep them stock.

[Soul oWar]

Sorry for the typo... I have a big problem typing my HE in the good order... Well always beend and always will ... well I guess... and yeah I'm french so what?

Thanks all, keep them comming I'm buying this monday and hope to get it by friday. Want to shoot my friend this week end... (hum in a game not on teh street) (see I did it again .. teh .. sorry )

[TheToastmaster]

The TM shotguns are really nice. The SPAS 12 is extremely plasticy and I've heard that it's frontheavy too.
I'd reccomend the M3 shorty, even though mine is broken (tri-nozzle cylinder problem).
I don't think that the problem is so much common, as not rare; and it can happen whether you double pump or not.
All that aside it's not hard to fix. The only reason mine is still in pieces is that I can't get ahold of the type of lube I want to relube the internals.
All in all, I'd say go for the TM ones. They're really nice and you don't need gas or a plug, just bbs.

[Aquamarine]

Originally Posted by TheToastmaster

The SPAS 12 is extremely plasticy and I've heard that it's frontheavy too.

If you haven't owned one, please don't comment on it.

For clarification, the SPAS 12 by Tokyo Marui is just as plasticy as any other Tokyo Marui gun out there. It's a heavy gun, NOT very front-heavy and is a great shot-gun. Sadly mine too ran into the same trouble as it would eventually only shoot one bb out of the top barrel for some odd reason.

One point of advice... unless you have a masters in mechanical engineering, DON'T take it apart. I made that mistake myself and boy.... wow... just... wow.

The SPAS 12 is quite durable, and I suggest the stock-less version (also because the version with a stock is somewhat difficult to find). Best of luck to you in your decision!

[TheToastmaster]

Sorry, Aqua I haven't owned one, but I've toyed with one and I've looked at one in pieces. It did look plasticy to me. I have no doubt that it's great thoughl; it's a TM shotty. They're well made and nice guns in general.
I wasn't knocking it, I was just sharing what I'd seen, and heard.

[Aquamarine]

Originally Posted by TheToastmaster

Sorry, Aqua I haven't owned one, but I've toyed with one and I've looked at one in pieces. It did look plasticy to me. I have no doubt that it's great thoughl; it's a TM shotty. They're well made and nice guns in general.
I wasn't knocking it, I was just sharing what I'd seen, and heard.

Fair enough, meant no offence.

[Legacy340]

If i were u id get a Maruzen they make like the best shot guns

[ancorp]

And why would that be (not bashing, just curious)?

Cheers,
Alex