Green laser for KSC MP9

Lycanthrope · January 8th, 2012, 07:24

Hello everyone, I have recently purchased a KSC MP9 and I am in the market for a green laser that will fit on the tac rail on the right hand side of the gun. It needs to be easily visible from far away in a CQB arena, it also needs to come with a mount and I would rather it didn't break the bank.

Obviously it also has to be durable.
Please leave your suggestions below,
Lycan

Phileas Fogg · January 8th, 2012, 09:38

You should not use lasers playing airsoft using them can cause permanent damage to your coplayers eyes.

Kingsix · January 8th, 2012, 10:18

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Originally Posted by Fileasfog

You should not use lasers playing airsoft using them can cause permanent damage to your coplayers eyes.

Depends on Class of laser, Low powered lasers are safer but seem to cost more. Red and Green lasers at <5mW are considered safe as they invoke the blink reflex. However it is advised not to stare into the laser as flashblindness and glare can occur but no permanent damage would occur.

The airsoft community tends to frown upon laser use as alot of lasers marketed towards airsoft are above class 2 5mW+. Also Cheaper Chinese lasers may have poorer QC and output more energy then advertised.

Consult your local field/players if they are ok with lasers before fielding a laser. Not all players feel safe with lasers and potiential eye damage.

phloudernow · January 8th, 2012, 10:18

just buy a green laser and get a standard 20mm scope mount or whatnot and mount it

SIMPLE

FOX_111 · January 8th, 2012, 11:21

Lasers are banned in Québec simply because their safety features are replicas or innexistant. And their power output is not always matching what's on the sticker. Most of them have powerfull UV rays that are not filtered.

My left eye was burned by a green laser in a CQB game a few years ago...

Do a search on the subject. It's been explaned and discussed in lenght.

dutch13 · January 8th, 2012, 12:13

Here in Manitoba we never use green lasers in the field. But red lasers are used from time to time.

Lycanthrope · January 8th, 2012, 16:40

Thanks everyone I won't be using a laser any more

MultipleParadox · January 9th, 2012, 11:37

A note about what I think is a myth concerning low-powered green (vs red):

Yes low power red laser are considered harmless like stated above; but be more cautious when it comes to green.

Green lasers work in a totally different way than red: An infrared diode is used instead of a red one, and its light is passed through different crystals to change its wavelength and get the green. The process reduces the light's power significantly and as a result, to achieve let's say 5mW of Green light, you need a much stronger infrared one.

High quality laser will have good IR filters and won't pose much problems, but as most of people prefer to not spend their paycheck on a low powered laser, we end up buying cheap chinese stuff. In these the IR filter is mostly non-existent or ineffective, and will allow a good amount of IR light outs, which can pose a threat to you and others. Even more so considering this light is invisible but can still cause damage.

Be even more careful when buying cheap, high powered green lasers.

ThunderCactus · January 9th, 2012, 13:25

The majority of green lasers are 8mW, that's why nobody uses them in manitoba.
It's way easier to find a <5mW red laser than a green one

GRIM · January 9th, 2012, 14:05

yeah green lasers are a bad idea, I had a green laser in my eye from an outdoor game in the day time, I felt it! Was not cool, and my eye was a little weird and twitchy for almost the entire day.

Better off to just not use them, if you want it for Target Practice or looks that's fine.

Oborous · January 9th, 2012, 16:55

MultipleParadox has it down. The only thing I'd add is the frequency doubler crystal in cheap green lasers may be too small/not properly heatsinked and can drift quite a bit in frequency which will lead to permanent damage of cheap IR filters.

In Edmonton we do not allow green lasers as we cannot guarentee 'high quality'. I personally use a red laser only for designating buildings (The shots were coming from that {light it up} building), never for actually aiming at people.

Grudge · January 9th, 2012, 17:06

With the Manitoba Airsoft Association unless you get your laser tested by a professional and certified 5mW or less it can't be used on a field. Most players don't know or couldn't be bothers to find someone to test, so no lasers.

ThunderCactus · January 9th, 2012, 19:49

It's spelled "Laser"

GRIM · January 10th, 2012, 01:23

That I could go for, using lasers to ID certain locations etc.

But for aiming at other people... Ehhh tooo much risk.

lurkingknight · January 10th, 2012, 16:02

I don't even want to see it on someone's gun, things can be turned on by accident by bumping into something being knocked or jostled around while running, tripping/falling, getting caught on clothing, and since everything is a shitty china repro in the airsoft world, even more reason not to trust them.

remove any sort of risk by removing the device entirely.

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January 8th, 2012, 07:24	#1
Lycanthrope Trader rating Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: New Zealand	Green laser for KSC MP9 Hello everyone, I have recently purchased a KSC MP9 and I am in the market for a green laser that will fit on the tac rail on the right hand side of the gun. It needs to be easily visible from far away in a CQB arena, it also needs to come with a mount and I would rather it didn't break the bank. Obviously it also has to be durable. Please leave your suggestions below, Lycan

January 8th, 2012, 10:18	#4
phloudernow Trader rating Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Toronto - Ontario, Vancouver - B.C and Hong Kong	just buy a green laser and get a standard 20mm scope mount or whatnot and mount it SIMPLE __________________ Current Lineup: VFC HK416 Custom Custom Bowie Tactical x SAI Glock 17 (TM Base), Custom SAI BLU Glock Build (Timberwolf Base) Custom Zev Noveske Shooting Team Glock 34 Project Guns Custom Zev Dragonfly G17 (Project) (In progress)

January 8th, 2012, 11:21	#5
FOX_111 Le Roi des poissons d'avril Trader rating Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Terrebonne, Québec	Lasers are banned in Québec simply because their safety features are replicas or innexistant. And their power output is not always matching what's on the sticker. Most of them have powerfull UV rays that are not filtered. My left eye was burned by a green laser in a CQB game a few years ago... Do a search on the subject. It's been explaned and discussed in lenght. __________________ Vérificateur d'âge: Terrebonne

January 8th, 2012, 09:38	#2
Phileas Fogg formerly Fileasfog Trader rating Join Date: May 2010	You should not use lasers playing airsoft using them can cause permanent damage to your coplayers eyes.

January 8th, 2012, 12:13	#6
dutch13 Trader rating Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Manitoba	Here in Manitoba we never use green lasers in the field. But red lasers are used from time to time.

January 8th, 2012, 16:40	#7
Lycanthrope Trader rating Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: New Zealand	Thanks everyone I won't be using a laser any more

January 9th, 2012, 13:25	#9
ThunderCactus Not Eye Safe, Pretty Boy Maximus on the field take his picture! Trader rating Join Date: Feb 2007	The majority of green lasers are 8mW, that's why nobody uses them in manitoba. It's way easier to find a <5mW red laser than a green one

January 9th, 2012, 14:05	#10
GRIM PMC84X - AV Status Revoked. Trader rating Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Kitchener, Ontario	yeah green lasers are a bad idea, I had a green laser in my eye from an outdoor game in the day time, I felt it! Was not cool, and my eye was a little weird and twitchy for almost the entire day. Better off to just not use them, if you want it for Target Practice or looks that's fine.

January 9th, 2012, 16:55	#11
Oborous Trader rating Join Date: May 2008 Location: Edmonton, AB	MultipleParadox has it down. The only thing I'd add is the frequency doubler crystal in cheap green lasers may be too small/not properly heatsinked and can drift quite a bit in frequency which will lead to permanent damage of cheap IR filters. In Edmonton we do not allow green lasers as we cannot guarentee 'high quality'. I personally use a red laser only for designating buildings (The shots were coming from that {light it up} building), never for actually aiming at people.

January 9th, 2012, 17:06	#12
Grudge multitech Trader rating Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: with your girlfriend, playing with her P90.	With the Manitoba Airsoft Association unless you get your laser tested by a professional and certified 5mW or less it can't be used on a field. Most players don't know or couldn't be bothers to find someone to test, so no lasers. __________________ Nothing says loving, like a head shot! Last edited by Grudge; January 10th, 2012 at 11:47..

January 9th, 2012, 19:49	#13
ThunderCactus Not Eye Safe, Pretty Boy Maximus on the field take his picture! Trader rating Join Date: Feb 2007	It's spelled "Laser"

January 10th, 2012, 01:23	#14
GRIM PMC84X - AV Status Revoked. Trader rating Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Kitchener, Ontario	That I could go for, using lasers to ID certain locations etc. But for aiming at other people... Ehhh tooo much risk.

January 10th, 2012, 16:02	#15
lurkingknight "bb bukakke" KING! Trader rating Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Ottawa	I don't even want to see it on someone's gun, things can be turned on by accident by bumping into something being knocked or jostled around while running, tripping/falling, getting caught on clothing, and since everything is a shitty china repro in the airsoft world, even more reason not to trust them. remove any sort of risk by removing the device entirely.

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