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Old March 3rd, 2011, 20:34   #1
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CF Pioneer

I wanted to make a CF pioneer load-out, which got me to thinking do they even wear anything different? There are only a couple left in the CF so pictures were hard to find. Suggestions/photos are greatly appreciated
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Old March 3rd, 2011, 21:19   #2
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Assault Pioneers ceased to exist late 90s early 2000s. Yes some former Assault Pioneers still exist, but not in that job anymore.

Only thing that made them stand out from other Infantry was they were allowed to have beards.
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Old March 3rd, 2011, 23:44   #3
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Mind if I ask, what was a CF pioneer?
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Old March 3rd, 2011, 23:56   #4
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A bunch of angry lumberjacks that traded their axe for an assault rifle?
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Old March 4th, 2011, 01:07   #5
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Pioneers would do a few things, they were the Infantry's organic combat engineers.

You'd run the rubber boats crossing rivers, blow mortar pits with explosives, do all the NBCW testing and cleanup, lay and remove minefields, set claymores, tie lots of knots and work with ropes, fill lots of sandbags, set and remove booby traps, chop down trees and build bunkers with them, and other similar tasks.

You'd have a chainsaw, a carrier with a dozer blade, and lots of C-4. About the only piece of personal kit you'd have that was special was a crimper for setting blasting caps on det cord. It was a pretty good platoon to be in, a lot of hard work but maybe less bull. Put the crimper in your KFS carrier.

The traditional pioneer would to out way ahead of the main element with an axe or a pick and chop down trees to build bridges or clear other obstacles They did the real mountain man gig and were the blacksmiths too so shaving for daily parade wasn't required. The beard protects you from heat and slag.

At times the folks in the Pioneer platoon would also get to be regimental pioneers so they'd dress up in 1800s garb (leather apron and axe), wear a beard, and parade with the band or the colours.
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Old March 4th, 2011, 01:10   #6
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Pioneers would do a few things, they were the Infantry's organic combat engineers.

You'd run the rubber boats crossing rivers, blow mortar pits with explosives, do all the NBCW testing and cleanup, lay and remove minefields, set claymores, tie lots of knots and work with ropes, fill lots of sandbags, set and remove booby traps, chop down trees and build bunkers with them, and other similar tasks.

You'd have a chainsaw, a carrier with a dozer blade, and lots of C-4. About the only piece of personal kit you'd have that was special was a crimper for setting blasting caps on det cord. It was a pretty good platoon to be in, a lot of hard work but maybe less bull. Put the crimper in your KFS carrier.

The traditional pioneer would to out way ahead of the main element with an axe or a pick and chop down trees to build bridges or clear other obstacles They did the real mountain man gig and were the blacksmiths too so shaving for daily parade wasn't required. The beard protects you from heat and slag.

At times the folks in the Pioneer platoon would also get to be regimental pioneers so they'd dress up in 1800s garb (leather apron and axe), wear a beard, and parade with the band or the colours.
Wow, that job description is so extremely stereotypically Canadian it's almost offensive. No wonder they got rid of Pioneers.

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Old March 4th, 2011, 01:19   #7
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The Brits started this if you can believe it. We just made it look good!

Top tip? Make a raft with a tarp, rope, and a bunch of sticks. Then float the Newfie out into the middle of a very big and cold river.
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Old March 4th, 2011, 01:50   #8
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yeah I've met one before attached to CER, total fucking badass.... oh well, I figured it would be a cool idea. But I also assumed it would just be cadpat with a beard haha
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Old March 4th, 2011, 02:16   #9
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Please ignore the demotivator but would these guys be possibly part of the pioneers?
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Old March 4th, 2011, 03:28   #10
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might be an old photo from the 80s from the look of it, though i am nowhere near an expert
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Old March 4th, 2011, 03:38   #11
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Those are Canadian Pioneers in Bosnia
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Old March 4th, 2011, 08:25   #12
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They are Pioneers from 1RCR(pretty sure it's 1) in Bosnia(or Kosovo?). I'm pretty sure the pic is from the 90's, not the 80s or 2005 as what the link above says. If it was 2005 they would be in CADPAT and I believe by then the Assault Pioneers were gone.

They are wearing the OD Goretex/Combat Jackets which I think came out in the later half of the 1990s.

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Old March 4th, 2011, 11:23   #13
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They are Pioneers from 1RCR(pretty sure it's 1) in Bosnia(or Kosovo?). I'm pretty sure the pic is from the 90's, not the 80s or 2005 as what the link above says. If it was 2005 they would be in CADPAT and I believe by then the Assault Pioneers were gone.

They are wearing the OD Goretex/Combat Jackets which I think came out in the later half of the 1990s.
well look at the right guy...his helmet looks like having a cadpat cover
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Old March 4th, 2011, 11:24   #14
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hm?

someone call me?

oh, it's about the unit, lol
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Old March 4th, 2011, 11:26   #15
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well look at the right guy...his helmet looks like having a cadpat cover
The Helmets and covers were the first pieces we received in the mid 90's.
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