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Old November 9th, 2010, 13:58   #1
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Do Magnets screw up gas guns?

Yeah, i'm thinking about making a magnetic holster, but I'm wondering if strong speaker magnets will screw up let's say a gas 92fs gun (or any other gun with sufficent ammount of steel in it)
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Old November 9th, 2010, 14:02   #2
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Yeah, i'm thinking about making a magnetic holster, but I'm wondering if strong speaker magnets will screw up let's say a gas 92fs gun (or any other gun with sufficent ammount of steel in it)
Finding and airsoft gun with enough iron in it to support it's own weight will be a larger challenge
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Old November 9th, 2010, 14:02   #3
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Mass Effect style?

I've thought about this too actually. I have ideas to incorporate magnetic holsters/magnetic rifle mounts into larger ideas.
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Old November 9th, 2010, 14:08   #4
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my uber gun hovers at my hip thanks to this l33t magnetic holster....
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i dont see how it would screw up the gun, unless there where ALOT of loose parts or loose fittings.
my main issue would be how secure would the gun really be?
maybe a electro magnet with a momentary interrupter button to disrupt the magnet long enough for you to "unholster" your pistol

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great now you got me thinking.
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Old November 9th, 2010, 14:12   #5
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The use of rare earth magnets (at least for military applications) is a no go. To many devices the field will interfere with.

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Airsoft? I can think of a ton of stuff, from mag holders to holsters.
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How.....would magnets.....interfere at all with an airsoft gas pistol?

This question boggles the mind.
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Old November 9th, 2010, 14:20   #7
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Finding and airsoft gun with enough iron in it to support it's own weight will be a larger challenge
Seconded. Most lower grade metal gas guns are made of pot metal with very little to no ferric content. Higher quality guns are made of aluminum. Some steel aftermarket parts are available such as outer barrels, chambers, etc are available in steel, but those parts wouldn't directly contact the magnets and the attraction would be weak. With a lot of stupidly powerful rare earth magnets, you may get something like that to hold, but the movement would cause the gun to release. What you'd need is an iron frame and slide, and neither exist in the airsoft world.

And really, to have a magnetic holster that would reliably hold up the weight of a steel gun (real steel or airsoft), the magnets would have to be so powerful that drawing the gun would require significant strength and would make the draw very slow and unnatural.
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Old November 9th, 2010, 14:24   #8
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I think the biggest problem is if this magnet is too powerful, you'll just have a hard time drawing the gun. And don't forget that if it's really powerful, metal objects will be attracted to you and that includes knives. Other than that, it shouldn't have any effect on your gun's function.
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How.....would magnets.....interfere at all with an airsoft gas pistol?

This question boggles the mind.
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Yeah, i'm thinking about making a magnetic holster, but I'm wondering if strong speaker magnets will screw up let's say a gas 92fs gun (or any other gun with sufficent ammount of steel in it)
It won't screw a gun up at all, but your wallet will be very unhappy if you are wearing the holster when chairsofting.
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Old November 9th, 2010, 14:41   #11
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I think the first thing we should wonder for any application using magnets, is... fucking magnets, how do they work?


(That being said, it always depends on the design you have in mind, but I'm not sure it'd work because of the low (very, very low, like .08%, if there's any) of iron in these guns, but also because there would probably be iron dust (ferrite?) that would stick to it while crawling or getting low in any way.
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Old November 9th, 2010, 14:56   #12
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1: steel slides will probably be the most ideal requirement for this (if not steel sides)
2: electromagnets can be turned on and off, so unholstering it won't be too difficult.
3: they already have magnetic holsters in the US, but those are mounting holsters meant for concealing your handgun under a desk or something of the like.

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I think the first thing we should wonder for any application using magnets, is... fucking magnets, how do they work?


(That being said, it always depends on the design you have in mind, but I'm not sure it'd work because of the low (very, very low, like .08%, if there's any) of iron in these guns, but also because there would probably be iron dust (ferrite?) that would stick to it while crawling or getting low in any way.
I'm an electromechanical engineering student, I know how magnets work: we did an entire course on them (motors). Iron dust does not cause problems: it just makes the magnet bigger (but does not change the intensity of the magnetic field itself).
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Yeah, he's wondering about a magnetic holster.

And he's wondering if magnets will screw up an airsoft pistol.

Still doesn't make sense.
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Yeah, he's wondering about a magnetic holster.

And he's wondering if magnets will screw up an airsoft pistol.

Still doesn't make sense.
generally, the question breaks down to: do magnetized components in gun, due to prolonged exposure to magnets, cause issues such as jamming, misfire, overshooting/undershooting, missalignment or the such. (bigger part of it is probably the confusion about whether the potmetal will actualy act funny under magnets).
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Old November 9th, 2010, 15:04   #15
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also, steel pistol parts are STAINLESS steel 99% of the time, and stainless is not magnetic
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