Gun Advise

[Grim_Assualt]

Right now I am deciding between guns and I have chosen three guns that are in my price range.

Here they are:

http://www.airsplat.com/Items/ER-BE-M9-G36K-M.htm

http://www.airsplat.com/Items/ERM-DE-M87-AK47.htm

http://www.airsplat.com/Items/ERM-DE-M89-UMP.htm

Which should a beginner like me go with?

[Bowers]

are you in canada or the us first off

if you are in canada those prices arent even close to what we are used to

furthur more if you do live here ytou should look into age verification

also i havent heard alot of good things about BE and DE

[GundamGPO3]

Originally Posted by Grim_Assualt

Right now I am deciding between guns and I have chosen three guns that are in my price range.

Here they are:

http://www.airsplat.com/Items/ER-BE-M9-G36K-M.htm

http://www.airsplat.com/Items/ERM-DE-M87-AK47.htm

http://www.airsplat.com/Items/ERM-DE-M89-UMP.htm

Which should a beginner like me go with?

I will answer your question. The G36 out of those 3 is the best choice, however I would look into a JG or something if you plan on only getting a cloner.

[Disco_Dante]

Actually all of those guns are crap, and you should buy neither of them. There is no real best choice.

If you are looking for a good first gun, I would recommend anything by Echo1 or JG, or any of CYMA's newer models. If money is a problem, get a Galaxy Mp5k.

[TokyoSeven]

Well, BE or Both Elephant if you will is not known to be the greatest Brand.
The same goes for DE or Double Eagle. The term you get what you pay for is the best term for this situation. However just between you and I, I hold DE a step or two higher up the ladder of quality than BE. Thats just my personal opinion though. After reading all of the info availble for the 3 items to choose from I would say go for the DE AK47 Beta Spetsnaz.

The G36, is a BE which I personally do not hold as that great of quality, and from experiances of others with BE, they are not always TM parts compatable. However it does have a metal gear box, so that is a plus of sorts.

Next up is your DE Ak47, which claims to be a 100% TM clone and that is a good thing as if you ever wish to swap out parts are purchase additional magazines you can do so by purchasing those that are TM compatable without worry. Also, this model sports a metal body which is a good bonus.

As for the UMP I cant really offer much as not a whole lot of useful info is available. Personally I would put your money on the Ak47. Now you have failed to update your personal profile info a few times now. I request you take the time to do so as it can assist us in assisting you. Ive taken some time to do some reading and research for you, now please take the time to read what I have written here below for you. It is extremely useful if you are indeed Canadian.

So Please take the time to fill in your profile, Where your from, your birthday etc. This forum holds a lot of information. Please keep in mind before starting a new thread, that there maybe an existing one already. Near the upper right hand corner next to the quick links and log out tab is the search tab. With that you can attempt to see if there is a thread on the topic, don’t get discouraged if you don’t find something right away, change up your search words as well, the search system doesn’t just find titles it looks for word matches in the content as well.

I’m sure you have a lot of questions, and in time you will find all the answers. There’s a lot to learn and it cant be picked up in a week or two. But I’m time you will learn what you need.

Heres a little reading Id like you to have a look at.
http://www.airsoftcanada.com/showthread.php?t=51609
It will shed a little light on airsoft in Canada in general.

Now as for airsoft in Canada, just as a general consensus this website and the majority of its members follow the 18 years of age rule. Meaning that it is recommended that a person be the age of 18 before they acquire their first gun. It is recommended because 18 is the recognized age where a person can be held legally responsible for their actions. Now it may not be illegal in all provinces to own airsoft, but I do believe there is a province out there where there is an actual law stating that one must be 18 to purchase. Which one that is, I cannot remember. Hopefully someone can perk up and jump in on that part. The majority of fields used for airsoft play usually require that a person be 18 years of age as well, although I have heard of fields where there have been players as young as 16, with parental consent.
I would like to take a moment to touch on maturity. I find people of all ages quote maturity, unfortunately stating maturity is irrelevant when it comes to airsoft, for the most part at least. There have been people as old as 40 and up who have acted like they were 12. I have already stated why the age of 18 was chosen. Now from time to time I hear people who are underage say that they have grown up with firearms all their life and they hunt and everything etc. If this applies to you then you should pay attention to this, if not you should read it and take it to heart anyways. So you have hunted for a long time? Been around guns since you were little? Well good you should have a firm grasp of trigger and muzzle control then. Now unfortunately regardless how much experience you have with fire arms you can not use it as a bargaining chip to skirt around what has been set as a rule among this community.
In my personal opinion an airsoft gun is not a fire arm; however that’s my personal opinion. For me, an airsoft gun only looks like a fire arm but that’s where I draw the line in comparisons. They do not function the same, sure relations can be made but they still are not the same. Now although I may not consider an airsoft gun a fire arm, authorities will in most instances. If you get caught doing something stupid with an airsoft gun you will be charged as if you are committing an offence with a real fire arm. If you are under the age of 18, the damage falls onto your legal guardians, so the shit really hits the fan. If you’re 18 and over at least you can be held responsible for being stupid. That’s the jist of it, accept it or don’t.

This website has a process called age verification, where if you are 18 or older you can meet with a volunteer representative of this website who will meet with you in person, there is no way around this, no phone, no webcam, in person only, where they will require to see a legitimate piece of photo identification. After the process is completed, it can take sometime as this is all volunteer work, you will be granted access to this websites buy and sell section, where you can find both new and used guns, for fair and competitive prices. Although its not always the case, it is sort of an open market.

Things to keep in mind when initially getting into airsoft.

-Its usually best to start with an AEG.

-Remember to factor in the costs of gear for your kit, BDU's, footwear, vest or holsters, slings and most of all, eye protection. Money can fix teeth, but I don’t think we can fix a shot out eye yet.

-You don’t always have to have a side arm in the beginning, its something you can pick up along the way.

-In most cases its recommended to play with your gun stock for a while before considering upgrades. Upgrading can be costly and can cause complications in some cases.

-Don’t forget to buy magazines for whatever gun you choose. High caps are ok, but well they rattle. Mid caps and low caps in my personal opinion are best.

This link is a link to a page that has some information in regards to picking your first AEG. I suggest you take sometime and read it.

http://www.airsoftcanada.com/showthread.php?t=253

Gun reviews can be found all over the internet, regardless which search engine you use, a different combination of search words can yield different searches. Let me keep it short and sweet, for the bulk of it, AEGS are simple motors that drive pistons that compress a spring to expel air to propel a BB down a barrel. How you want that set up to look is up to you. There are many brands of companies out there that make airsoft guns, how much you pay maybe relevant to the quality you receive.

Tactics and gear questions, tactics and other movement and communication methods can be learned on the internet or will be picked up overtime as you play. Gear, people build kits that suite their needs, its not just about looking cool. Some people simple use a holster for a side arm and carry a few mags in pockets. Others prefer to carry a full kit. To each his own. Its something you build and develop to your playing style over time.


Finally this website also has a FAQ section that holds some useful info, it may not be entirely up to date, but I suggest you poke around in there as well. You may find something handy.

[Crunchmeister]

Originally Posted by TokyoSeven

Next up is your DE Ak47, which claims to be a 100% TM clone and that is a good thing as if you ever wish to swap out parts are purchase additional magazines you can do so by purchasing those that are TM compatable without worry. Also, this model sports a metal body which is a good bonus.

I have this gun. Internally, it's held up well, seeing about 20 000 rounds (mostly in sustained auto bursts) and zero maintenance. The gun still fires flawlessly. However, the plastic is very weak and brittle. A fall from a few inches snapped the entire stock off, including part of the receiver. It's internals are compatible, as in the V3 mechbox and such. Receivers and stock aren't compatble. I can't confirm the hopup since I've never seen a TM AK hopup. I can't confirm one way or another if the front end is TM compatible or not. IMO, this gun is not a good choice.