Legality issues

[BBS]

I suggest checking out this link

http://www.airsoftcanada.com/showthread.php?t=51609

[Ronan]

I suggest ignoring Mr.Hitman because he is Mr.Hitman. Also Mr.Hitman please stop posting about things you do not fully understand.

Thank you Mr.Hitman for your mature understanding about this 'hot' subject.

[TokyoSeven]

Waivers, good idea, but in most cases stand up in court about as well as they do against airsoft BB's, unless the waiver is printed on a sheet of metal or something, but that is a whole entire diffrent story, which in turn we would instead refer to the airsoft BBs has a highpowered cutting laser instead.

Refering to another thread that I posted in, its best to approach a brokerage and have them aid you in applying for the insurance that would be applicable to what you are doing.

[Lawdog]

If you are doing this without at least a $2M liability policy you are most unwise.

Waivers don't stand up in court (usually) but often can deter the suit in the first place.

Good luck and have fun.

Ld

[autohandgun]

well we dont have any neighbors except for 1 family who is best friends with me and also a resort thaat is under construction but our whole property is secluded and fenced off with no tresspassing signs and stuff so the way i see it i can either keep it small and private or go public but have to deal with insurance and lawyers. thanx for all the help it is appreciated. i think i'll keep it private for the next year or two and then if im making some money ill look to expand.

[Lawdog]

I suggest that you need to have adequate insurance whether you keep it small and private or large and public. If someone sustains a serious injury while enjoying this sport on your property (friend or not) a big wackin' judgement can ruin your life.

Ld

[Rukus]

Just because you only have friends playing there doesn't mean that if he gets an eye taken out by a bb that you’re immune to a law suit, everyone sues everybody of anything these days. And that is worst case scenario, if you do decide to ignore that advice lawdog gave you which I wouldn’t recommend it, you’re doing so at your own risk. I'd much rather play on an already established field and leave the worry to someone else unless I was prepared to make my place a business and run it as such.

[Danke]

For sure have coverage. I have friends who were sued by members of their family (dog bite).

"We're not suing you, we're suing your insurance company. Oh your rate will quadruple or you'll loose the coverage? Too bad, the mental scars could last a lifetime and we must have compensation."

[Dirtbag]

Just one thing, ignore all the waiver will not stand up they can sue you for anything talk this is not the US, and these are not lawyers.

Start with the lawyer and find out what your liability is

Have a copy of your waiver, do some research 1st on this

Write down all the required safety rules

A copy the safety briefing you will give.

And a clear description of the sport for the lawyer.

The rules are different from to province to province, as far as liability goes but generally you have to be negligent or create a unsafe environment. But once again I am not a lawyer so get some legal advice.

Beyond that treat and plan it as a business, our field here in BC has 12 rentals and they are often all rented out a week in advance of a game.

[vatek]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag

Just one thing, ignore all the waiver will not stand up they can sue you for anything talk this is not the US, and these are not lawyers.

I'm pretty sure Lawdog is a lawyer.

[Ibby]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag

Just one thing, ignore all the waiver will not stand up they can sue you for anything talk this is not the US, and these are not lawyers.

Originally Posted by vatek

I'm pretty sure Lawdog is a lawyer.

+1. And remember, this is Canada, not the US. Our laws differ. In the US you can waive away pretty much any right you have. In Canada, it's not so easy.

[Lawdog]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag

Just one thing, ignore all the waiver will not stand up they can sue you for anything talk this is not the US, and these are not lawyers.

Start with the lawyer and find out what your liability is

Have a copy of your waiver, do some research 1st on this

Write down all the required safety rules

A copy the safety briefing you will give.

And a clear description of the sport for the lawyer.

The rules are different from to province to province, as far as liability goes but generally you have to be negligent or create a unsafe environment. But once again I am not a lawyer so get some legal advice.

Beyond that treat and plan it as a business, our field here in BC has 12 rentals and they are often all rented out a week in advance of a game.

Actually I have never turned down a case for fear of a waiver, or even given a settlement discount for one.

And yes I is a lawyer and all, and really know what I is talking about.

Your comments on negligance are interesting but did you factor in the varioius permutations of the Occupiers Liability Act.

Ld

[WarBat]

Some of you guys are so fast to tell other people to shut up..
well maybe some of you should take your own advise.. ate lest the other guy is trying to ansewer autohandgun. the big mouths are you idiots doing the least bit of help by telling everyone that is trying to help to to shut up...

so FOR FUCKS SAKE!!
If your not gonna post anything usefull then let the guy that cant "STOP TALKING ABOUT STUFF YOU HAVE NO IDEA ABOUT" talk cuz at least HE is trying to HELP and HE is the only one that is on topic

~to the mods~
sorry about the lang

[Chrios]

...Seriously? Are we reading the same thread? There's lots of people who answered the question. And as far as most are concerned, engaging mouth before engaging brain when dealing with such a sticky subject is valid grounds for being told to shut the hell up. Methinks you can find a lesson somewhere in that too.

Let's say you have a math test tomorrow that you didn't prepare for, so you ask me for help studying. I, as a pig waxing major (with a minor in basket weaving to boot), know nothing about maths, so I start making up shit up. It doesn't do you much good, huh? Moreover, if any self-respecting mathematician was within earshot, you could bet he'd have a few choice words to tell me. I hope it was worth bumping this dead thread to say the little you did.

[WarBat]

if you wanna take this up more PM me so were not messing up this guys thread any more then we have to