VFC HK 416, need some knowledgable info

Fox Hound · November 27th, 2007, 19:17

Ok i've been doing some reading about this but i'm going in circles. I dont know anyone who owns this but i'm planning on purchasing one shortly. I have a few questions that i can't figure out.

1.What difference does it make if its the D or DX model? Just being able to swap barrels? How do i tell them apart?

2. How the hell do those guys on youtube pull this off?YouTube - VFC 416D final water test
I fell into a rivene one time and my gun worked for a while till it seased up.

3. this is unrelated but a crane stock holding 9.6 1700mah battery can easily pull off a M120 with ease?

Donster · November 27th, 2007, 19:21

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Originally Posted by Fox Hound

Ok i've been doing some reading about this but i'm going in circles. I dont know anyone who owns this but i'm planning on purchasing one shortly. I have a few questions that i can't figure out.

1.What difference does it make if its the D or DX model? Just being able to swap barrels? How do i tell them apart?

2. How the hell do those guys on youtube pull this off?http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LY98d...eature=related
I fell into a rivene one time and my gun worked for a while till it seased up.

3. this is unrelated but a crane stock holding 9.6 1700mah battery can easily pull off a M120 with ease?

the difference between the D and DX is simply the ability to swap out different barrel lengths on the DX. i believe that the 9.6 volt battery should have no problem with an M120. Even an 8.4 should be ok i think.

A word of caution. i have heard many complaints about the internals of the VFC HK 416. here are some "reviews" on the guns. some of them are actually informative... others, not so much:

http://www.airsoftgi.com/product_rev...oducts_id=1835

http://www.airsoftgi.com/product_rev...oducts_id=1831

hope that helps

TokyoSeven · November 27th, 2007, 19:22

I cant answer your #1

But as for #2, there are some comments under the video that help.

and as for your number 3, you should be fine.

Fox Hound · November 27th, 2007, 19:35

thanks i expected the internals to be less than perfect. Good thing i have my own kit i'd like to swap in for it

Fox Hound · November 27th, 2007, 19:51

how easily is the barrel swapped and how is it done?

Yuu · November 27th, 2007, 19:58

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Originally Posted by Fox Hound

thanks i expected the internals to be less than perfect. Good thing i have my own kit i'd like to swap in for it

Be advised I suggest you look into Kingarms New Hk416 Metal body. VFC Hk416 internals are not that great, and if you decided to use a different V2 gearbox you'll lose the bolt catch function.

With KingArms 416 body you can retain bolt catch function while having aftermarket gearbox such as Systema V2 and easy disassemble into 2-piece.

The body,
http://www.kingarms.com/productpage.asp?prodid=1171

Diagram,
http://www.kingarms.com/ka-m4-20.asp

Here what I mean by 2 piece.
YouTube - King Arms Metal Receiver

Sadly, there haven't been aftermarket part for the 416 monolithic rail but maybe someday. Maybe Troy Mono rail?

And I do believe you'll nerf the Hk416 anyways to your liking like all AR-lovers.

Fox Hound · November 27th, 2007, 21:02

WOW where can i get that...

ThunderCactus · November 27th, 2007, 21:10

Only things I didn't like about the 416 was the wobbly stock, clear hopup chamber and 'custom' V2 gearbox.

Fox Hound · November 27th, 2007, 21:14

Its a V2 mechbox, sooo.... that means i can leave the "custom" mechbox in and still add my own internals right? or they they interfere with the bolt catch?

Does anyone know how well the bolt catch works? theres a video on you tube showing how to fix this problem...

Danke · November 27th, 2007, 21:15

Here's a little photo essay showing a barrel swap.

ThunderCactus · November 27th, 2007, 21:52

I don't know how good their gearbox shells are, but as long as you keep it under 350fps with a 'silent' piston head you should have no problems!

Danke · November 27th, 2007, 22:52

I don't know about some of those online reviews, I mean look at this one.

Obviously written by a crazy man who may not actually own the item in question.

The VFC's seem to reveiw very well on Arnies, and those folks take so many pictures it's hard to say it's a joke or smear reveiw from a bitter cheese eater.

ThunderCactus · November 27th, 2007, 23:08

Maybe he just got a bad one? Some CA guns last a year, some last 50 rounds...
Any experienced airsofter knows you have to replace a few parts in ANY gun before it can be deemed reliable. I buy my guns for their bodies, not their internals, figure I'm replacing them all anyways

Hk-GUY · December 1st, 2007, 04:58

I love my HK416, but as for the internals I have no clue as mine was all swapped out with Systema, ect... internals before it was ever fired. The barrels just screw off and on like the muzzle. The 10.5, inch is the audible size, you then add the extra barrel to get to the 14.5, and in my case I have the hurricane 16inch barrel aswell. If you connect the 14.5 to the 16 and then a suppressor you get a loooong snipper look, LOL looks a lil funny for and armalite weapon to be that long. The stock I have is the Hurricane HK417 Stock which holds a 9.6 4200 MAH NIMH battery. I would recomend the stock in a heart beat... no wobble when the battery is instaled. The bolt release dosent work as of now but I will get it corrected soon. its just a matter of figureing out exactly what to do.

spl01t77 · February 9th, 2008, 22:15

hey there. you've all done an amazing job at helping introduce me to the world of airsoft. N00b here looking to build a 416. Would really appreciate anyones help i.e. buy a vfc 416 or build one. If you have some time and any experience with building out a 416 please PM me. I would really appreciate it.

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November 27th, 2007, 19:22	#3
TokyoSeven Red Wine & Adderall Trader rating Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Saskatoon, SK	I cant answer your #1 But as for #2, there are some comments under the video that help. and as for your number 3, you should be fine. __________________ "Its only a little bit on fire"

November 27th, 2007, 19:35	#4
Fox Hound Trader rating Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: North Bay / Stoney Creek	thanks i expected the internals to be less than perfect. Good thing i have my own kit i'd like to swap in for it __________________

November 27th, 2007, 19:51	#5
Fox Hound Trader rating Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: North Bay / Stoney Creek	how easily is the barrel swapped and how is it done? __________________

November 27th, 2007, 19:17	#1
Fox Hound Trader rating Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: North Bay / Stoney Creek	VFC HK 416, need some knowledgable info Ok i've been doing some reading about this but i'm going in circles. I dont know anyone who owns this but i'm planning on purchasing one shortly. I have a few questions that i can't figure out. 1.What difference does it make if its the D or DX model? Just being able to swap barrels? How do i tell them apart? 2. How the hell do those guys on youtube pull this off?YouTube - VFC 416D final water test I fell into a rivene one time and my gun worked for a while till it seased up. 3. this is unrelated but a crane stock holding 9.6 1700mah battery can easily pull off a M120 with ease? __________________

November 27th, 2007, 21:02	#7
Fox Hound Trader rating Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: North Bay / Stoney Creek	WOW where can i get that... __________________ Last edited by Fox Hound; November 27th, 2007 at 21:07..

November 27th, 2007, 21:10	#8
ThunderCactus Not Eye Safe, Pretty Boy Maximus on the field take his picture! Trader rating Join Date: Feb 2007	Only things I didn't like about the 416 was the wobbly stock, clear hopup chamber and 'custom' V2 gearbox.

November 27th, 2007, 21:14	#9
Fox Hound Trader rating Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: North Bay / Stoney Creek	Its a V2 mechbox, sooo.... that means i can leave the "custom" mechbox in and still add my own internals right? or they they interfere with the bolt catch? Does anyone know how well the bolt catch works? theres a video on you tube showing how to fix this problem... __________________

November 27th, 2007, 21:15	#10
Danke Prancercise Guru Trader rating Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Danger Zone	Here's a little photo essay showing a barrel swap.

November 27th, 2007, 21:52	#11
ThunderCactus Not Eye Safe, Pretty Boy Maximus on the field take his picture! Trader rating Join Date: Feb 2007	I don't know how good their gearbox shells are, but as long as you keep it under 350fps with a 'silent' piston head you should have no problems!

November 27th, 2007, 22:52	#12
Danke Prancercise Guru Trader rating Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Danger Zone	I don't know about some of those online reviews, I mean look at this one. Obviously written by a crazy man who may not actually own the item in question. The VFC's seem to reveiw very well on Arnies, and those folks take so many pictures it's hard to say it's a joke or smear reveiw from a bitter cheese eater.

November 27th, 2007, 23:08	#13
ThunderCactus Not Eye Safe, Pretty Boy Maximus on the field take his picture! Trader rating Join Date: Feb 2007	Maybe he just got a bad one? Some CA guns last a year, some last 50 rounds... Any experienced airsofter knows you have to replace a few parts in ANY gun before it can be deemed reliable. I buy my guns for their bodies, not their internals, figure I'm replacing them all anyways

December 1st, 2007, 04:58	#14
Hk-GUY Trader rating Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: DFW, TEXAS USA	I love my HK416, but as for the internals I have no clue as mine was all swapped out with Systema, ect... internals before it was ever fired. The barrels just screw off and on like the muzzle. The 10.5, inch is the audible size, you then add the extra barrel to get to the 14.5, and in my case I have the hurricane 16inch barrel aswell. If you connect the 14.5 to the 16 and then a suppressor you get a loooong snipper look, LOL looks a lil funny for and armalite weapon to be that long. The stock I have is the Hurricane HK417 Stock which holds a 9.6 4200 MAH NIMH battery. I would recomend the stock in a heart beat... no wobble when the battery is instaled. The bolt release dosent work as of now but I will get it corrected soon. its just a matter of figureing out exactly what to do. __________________ Signature images can not exceed 510 x 100 pixels. See this thread for more details: http://www.airsoftcanada.com/showthread.php?t=53249

February 9th, 2008, 22:15	#15
spl01t77 Trader rating Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: next door to the tax payer	hey there. you've all done an amazing job at helping introduce me to the world of airsoft. N00b here looking to build a 416. Would really appreciate anyones help i.e. buy a vfc 416 or build one. If you have some time and any experience with building out a 416 please PM me. I would really appreciate it.

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