G36c problems

Zekk05 · January 16th, 2006, 21:36

Kay, did some testing on the gun, just to make sure... is the fuse supposed to be on the positive side?

mcguyver · January 16th, 2006, 21:42

it's a dc system, so to protect the motor it doesn't matter. but generally speaking the answer is yes. on my tm g36, it's on the positive (red) line.

Zekk05 · January 16th, 2006, 21:46

correction: on the positive (red) from the battery.
it seems that the fuse is on the red line on the gun, but the battery connects in the reverse. (black from the battery goes to red on the gun, and visa versa)

mcguyver · January 16th, 2006, 21:53

that would explain some things. easiest way to correct that would be to reverse you battery terminal pins and make sure your charger is the same way. then your gun should function as normal. but your "phantom current draw" issue may still persist and maybe from another problem. it's hard to solve issues like this online. but if you were pulling the trigger with your battery wired this way, your motor would have turned backwards and gotten locked up by the anti-reversal latch. this would have caused your motor to draw alot of current and this would lead to battery heating as you described, but i would think your fuse should have blown if you held your trigger for a few seconds. short pulls in rapid succession probably wouldn't have blown the fuse but could lead to battery heating if you did it enough.

Digital_Assasin · January 16th, 2006, 21:54

The black on the battery should go to the black on the gun. If they don' match up then you motor will be trying to turn inreverse against the antireversal latch. The more resistance a DC motor has against turning he more current it sucks. Hence the fuse to protect the gun from this among other things. So basically your gun is trying to firebackwards and is being stopped, but you motor is still trying to do it, sucking more and more current (higher then normal) and draining you battery at an increased rate hence he heat build up from leaving the battery in the gun after trying to fire it. Usually the fuse would blow to protect the gun, but only if the current is over 15 A. If it is under 15 A the fuse won't blow. But under 15 A is still a hard discharge for you battery, hence the heat build up.

Zekk05 · January 16th, 2006, 22:04

did some volt test and the amp was ~ 17a.
will try to reverse the wires and see what comes up. I never held the trigger down for too long, only ever pulled it in small quick bursts. which would explain why the fuse didnt blow.

thanks for all your help guys, really appreciate it. Its not easy bein a n00b these days!

Zekk05 · January 16th, 2006, 22:55

update: gun is now working great. just gotta figure out the hop up setting now. the dial spins but nothing changes. leave that for another day.. but it fires great!

It was a reversal in the power, flipped the connector on the gun where the battery plugs in, and it works great.

thanks again for the help!

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January 16th, 2006, 21:36	#16
Zekk05 Trader rating Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Winnipeg	Kay, did some testing on the gun, just to make sure... is the fuse supposed to be on the positive side?

January 16th, 2006, 21:42	#17
mcguyver Trader rating Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Northern Alberta	it's a dc system, so to protect the motor it doesn't matter. but generally speaking the answer is yes. on my tm g36, it's on the positive (red) line.

January 16th, 2006, 21:46	#18
Zekk05 Trader rating Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Winnipeg	correction: on the positive (red) from the battery. it seems that the fuse is on the red line on the gun, but the battery connects in the reverse. (black from the battery goes to red on the gun, and visa versa)

January 16th, 2006, 21:53	#19
mcguyver Trader rating Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Northern Alberta	that would explain some things. easiest way to correct that would be to reverse you battery terminal pins and make sure your charger is the same way. then your gun should function as normal. but your "phantom current draw" issue may still persist and maybe from another problem. it's hard to solve issues like this online. but if you were pulling the trigger with your battery wired this way, your motor would have turned backwards and gotten locked up by the anti-reversal latch. this would have caused your motor to draw alot of current and this would lead to battery heating as you described, but i would think your fuse should have blown if you held your trigger for a few seconds. short pulls in rapid succession probably wouldn't have blown the fuse but could lead to battery heating if you did it enough.

January 16th, 2006, 21:54	#20
Digital_Assasin Trader rating Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: OTTAWA.ON.CA	The black on the battery should go to the black on the gun. If they don' match up then you motor will be trying to turn inreverse against the antireversal latch. The more resistance a DC motor has against turning he more current it sucks. Hence the fuse to protect the gun from this among other things. So basically your gun is trying to firebackwards and is being stopped, but you motor is still trying to do it, sucking more and more current (higher then normal) and draining you battery at an increased rate hence he heat build up from leaving the battery in the gun after trying to fire it. Usually the fuse would blow to protect the gun, but only if the current is over 15 A. If it is under 15 A the fuse won't blow. But under 15 A is still a hard discharge for you battery, hence the heat build up.

January 16th, 2006, 22:04	#21
Zekk05 Trader rating Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Winnipeg	did some volt test and the amp was ~ 17a. will try to reverse the wires and see what comes up. I never held the trigger down for too long, only ever pulled it in small quick bursts. which would explain why the fuse didnt blow. thanks for all your help guys, really appreciate it. Its not easy bein a n00b these days!

January 16th, 2006, 22:55	#22
Zekk05 Trader rating Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Winnipeg	update: gun is now working great. just gotta figure out the hop up setting now. the dial spins but nothing changes. leave that for another day.. but it fires great! It was a reversal in the power, flipped the connector on the gun where the battery plugs in, and it works great. thanks again for the help!

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