Increasing ROF on a G&G mp5 toptech/do battery brands matter?

[cetane]

Originally Posted by BenG

G&G just makes crap shells, you can break them on an m100

I've had a few come through my hands this way too. Same butter shell on basic & toptech non blow back ones. I've got a mp5 g&g I am going to try to get the shell to last on as I don't want to mill the top spline on a generic v2, and the selector ambi hole doesn't 100% line up on a cyma shell I have kicking around

[ThunderCactus]

Originally Posted by BobbyDangerous

I have always had issues with getting distance with .30's.

Means either your hopup couldnt handle them, or your muzzle energy was too low.
Heavier ammo loses its energy less quickly. Best way to tell them apart is actually by the trajectory; heavy ammo tends to have much flatter trajectories. Should be easy to see between a .25 and .30.
I know a LOT of aftermarket nubbed hop rubbers cant effectively impart enough hop on heavier BBs. By the time they're putting enough pressure down to give you optimal trajectory, they've significantly lowered the muzzle energy, reversing any gains you might have gotten.

[BobbyDangerous]

Originally Posted by ThunderCactus

Means either your hopup couldnt handle them, or your muzzle energy was too low.
Heavier ammo loses its energy less quickly. Best way to tell them apart is actually by the trajectory; heavy ammo tends to have much flatter trajectories. Should be easy to see between a .25 and .30.
I know a LOT of aftermarket nubbed hop rubbers cant effectively impart enough hop on heavier BBs. By the time they're putting enough pressure down to give you optimal trajectory, they've significantly lowered the muzzle energy, reversing any gains you might have gotten.

TBH I keep my Hop Up off most of the time an still get distance.

[Zeroroaster]

Just for giggles, how much distance? I use 30's across the board in my aeg's and if I get less than 250ft. it's broken. The 30's do shoot very flat and do a fine job of ripping through the foliage never mind making a hit very decisive. Like ThunderCactus says, it takes some hop to do it...but once it's dialled in, it's terrific!

[BobbyDangerous]

Originally Posted by Zeroroaster

Just for giggles, how much distance? I use 30's across the board in my aeg's and if I get less than 250ft. it's broken. The 30's do shoot very flat and do a fine job of ripping through the foliage never mind making a hit very decisive. Like ThunderCactus says, it takes some hop to do it...but once it's dialled in, it's terrific!

I can get that easily.

[ThunderCactus]

If youre getting past 75ft with the hop off, then the hop isnt actually off.

[BobbyDangerous]

Originally Posted by ThunderCactus

If youre getting past 75ft with the hop off, then the hop isnt actually off.

It's off man lol

[ThunderCactus]

The dial is off, it's not actually off.
Doesn't matter if you can't see the hop in the barrel or not, the hop is putting backspin on the BB.
Believe it or not, you're not the first one to state that, either. I get one every 2 years, each time, it's just a particularly big nub causing the hop to be on while it's dial is all the way off. Easy to tell when I roll a BB down the barrel and it stops before hitting the sealing lip lol

The BB travels the first 100ft faster than a .30, I've seen people mistake that for "getting better range" as well.
You'd have to videotape a shoot of both weights out to measured distances to convince me otherwise.