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December 7th, 2015, 23:35 | #1 |
M4 with GBLS Dynamic bolt action!
I am watching this bad boy. It is going to be more fun than a GBBR or any of the recoil types of AEG.
https://youtu.be/Gc6JP0ohv6g https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FswdcYxuK64 https://youtu.be/Gc6JP0ohv6g Last edited by SuperHog; December 7th, 2015 at 23:39.. |
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December 8th, 2015, 00:02 | #2 |
I imagine that's some decently high stresses running through that.
It'll need a strong spring to pull the entire bolt assembly instead of just a piston to get a decent fps, and that means a stronger motor. As well, to up the rof, that means high speed gears, which needs high-quality and durable internal parts, which if they aren't present, I see lots of broken proprietary parts, and we all know how much fun that is... But if they do a good job, that'll be a really nice alternative to standard AEGs. Wonder how much it'll cost. |
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December 8th, 2015, 10:31 | #3 |
The bolt is a cosmetic shell made of plastic or thin alum uses little energy to pull back. 99% of the work on the motor is the spring. The bolt just rides with the spring.
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December 8th, 2015, 11:19 | #4 |
I'm confused.
There is teeth at the bottom of the bolt, and the gearbox uses the ICS bottom-half design gearbox design. It pulls the bolt back but I don't see anywhere in the video where there is space for it to retract backwards towards the buffer tube. It looks like the whole bolt is a piston in itself and the cylinder is nowhere to be found so I have no clue where the compression starts and ends to propel the BB. As a frequently moving part, I have a feeling that they made a smart choice putting a metal delta-ring esque looking part at the front to cushion the impact, but I have no idea why they would make the bolt plastic since the vibration might f- it up. It also appears to use a proprietary feeding chamber; the bb is exposed and the hop up is ???? Looks innovative to say the least. No more V2 GB failures? |
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December 8th, 2015, 11:23 | #5 |
It is similar to a bolt action sniper. The bolt pulls the spring back and a sear holds the piston back while the bolt move forward to chamber a bb. Once the pull trigger, the sear releases the piston.
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December 8th, 2015, 12:20 | #6 |
The bolt is probably plastic to increase battery life. I would bet there will be an aftermarket metal/steel bolt to add more recoil but at the cost of battery life.
This looks like it could truly be the next gen of airsoft guns rather than recoil shock AEGs. I hope this is a big success and they start making other models. I'm not even really a big fan of M4s but I might consider picking one up just to support the company. If there is ever any information on release/price, that is. |
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December 8th, 2015, 12:46 | #7 | |
Oh we do hate you, just never felt like wasting the time to give you a user title :P
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Seemes it works similar to a gbbr, only difference is instead of the gas being routed through the bolt the bolt houses the piston and cylinder. I'd venture a guess that drawing the bolt back locks the piston. Pulling the trigger releases it and then redraws the spring so it'll be super quiet until it's too late. As opposed to hearing gearbox wind up then pop and bb flying it'll be a pop then the cycle. Much like a pre cocking with some mosfet.
Seemes as tho the company has been around running training or some such altho it is possible that Dynamic Action Sports and Dynamic Action Systems are different companies, however the fact they use airsoft to train may have lead them to branch out into this. Either way looks prety nifty. Don't think it'll replace gbbr ' s but it would be a great option for winter play while still "feeling" correct.
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December 10th, 2015, 01:03 | #8 |
Well, the TOP shell ejecting EBB M4 already uses a similar concept. I would assume is something similar without the shells ?
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December 10th, 2015, 01:37 | #9 |
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The recoil would probably be lesser than a gbbr due to the fact the bolt carrier is almost entirely hollow (the spring appears to go all the way to the rear). I'd also surmise the FPS (and how much it can be upgraded) would be low, or everything will start behaving sluggishly.
Interesting, but not sure I'm sold.
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December 10th, 2015, 14:43 | #11 |
Insider from HK said it's near PTW pricing. (APPROX 1000+ USD)
http://arniesairsoft.co.uk/forums/in...rea/?p=2738194 Last edited by BioRage; December 10th, 2015 at 14:47.. |
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Price as I stated, is PTW pricing. USD > CAD ATM, so.. $$$
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Source: http://arniesairsoft.co.uk/forums/in...s-korea/page-3 Last edited by BioRage; January 7th, 2016 at 11:18.. |
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January 7th, 2016, 12:17 | #13 |
Google level: BOSS
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Of cause we has hop up, don't be funny guy.
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January 7th, 2016, 12:20 | #14 |
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