Sniping fools

[Arby_Winchester]

I am new to this site, and I hope that this is the correct place to post this. If not, whoops

I have wanted to get into airsoft sniping for a long time, but have no clue on which rifles are good, and which ones are a moneygrab. I recently found two rifles that look decent. The C-Tac L96 Pro and the C-tac VSR 10 Pro. Both look really decent and are in my price range. I just can't decide which is the best option. What are your opinions? I am also open to suggestion.

Thank you,
Merci,
Whatever.
Arby

[localfreerider]

http://airsoftcanada.com/showthread.php?t=158804

If it is your first airsoft gun and you are just starting out I suggest against sniping in the beginning due to all the reasons in the post above.

If this is not your first gun and you are a seasoned player looking to fill a new role and already have at least one AEG I would suggest the VSR over the L96 due to the ease and availability of upgraded parts. Expect to pay more for a good piece of glass and upgrade parts than the whole of what you paid for the rifle itself, only to make it on par with accuracy and range of a moderately tuned AEG.

Things I would upgrade first are the hop up rubber followed by getting 100% compression then I would get a trigger unit on standby for when the stock one fails and starts to slam fire.

I've had a hard on for this gun for a while but bolt action does not suit my play style. This would be out of the box awesome if you could find one in stock somewhere.
http://www.x-fire.org/m24/e.m24_raven2011.html
or complete VSR drop in kit
http://www.x-fire.org/complete/new_pmx/05/e.005.html

C-tac is just a re brand of another clone (I think Well) and of the few I have seen and handled that have come across my work bench I have not been impressed with the quality.

[Curo]

You budget leaves you outranged, out played and out shot by AEGs.

[666]

Airsoft guns don't work the same way as real guns do. In airsoft playing sniper role is not about tagging tons of people at events - it's mostly about providing useful info for your team and maybe shooting someone in the process. Like Curo said, you will be outgunned by anyone with half decent auto AEG/GBB. Once people spot you - it's time to run... Even if you will spend $1000-$1500 on a BA rifle (high end ones can cost even more than $1500) don't except to be "uber killing machine that rules the field". Over the years I probably met less than 10 people are really good with aisoft BA rifles and know exactly what they are doing.

[daishi]

Oh look, another weekly "I wanna be a CoD sniper" from another new player.

How about you go get yourself a nice AEG or GBBR and go play some games first and figure out why only a very select group of people snipe and only in very certain circumstances.

Otherwise you will end up hating airsoft and quitting the sport because you will always be dead, not have much fun and frankly just be bored senseless. I think 99% of new players all go through the...I WANNA BE A SNIWPER GUISE phase. Now when I see a guy with a sniper I know better. 10% of the time, he/she is amazing...or 90% a newbie that has no idea whats going on.

[Curo]

Originally Posted by daishi

Oh look, another weekly "I wanna be a CoD sniper" from another new player.

How about you go get yourself a nice AEG or GBBR and go play some games first and figure out why only a very select group of people snipe and only in very certain circumstances.

Otherwise you will end up hating airsoft and quitting the sport because you will always be dead, not have much fun and frankly just be bored senseless. I think 99% of new players all go through the...I WANNA BE A SNIWPER GUISE phase. Now when I see a guy with a sniper I know better. 10% of the time, he/she is amazing...or 90% a newbie that has no idea whats going on.

Too elaborate one this.

Many 'shooters' at milsims complain about not shooting all the time, welcome to playing the role of sniper. It's like a milsim every game in that sense. I mean I'm on the lower end of (humanly) possible RPM using a GBBR but I'll still throw mag after mag of 30 bbs screaming at you, heavy weight shit too. Or I can be the guy with 120 round AEG midcaps and just full auto spam into the bushes. And you will not out range me. Using a higher FPS? Not likely as most places want people with experience using higher FPS. Its dangerous to be using a High FPS rifle, best leave that to experienced players.

But its your money. I'd just get a higher end bolt action. When shooting in a sniper role it is about precision (as much as possible within the confines of 6mm bb rifles) which means you need a rifle made correctly, not hob-job chinese repro no QC crap.

EDIT: If you get Age Verified soon you can pick up a high end Bolt Action on the classifieds in the next few weeks. With it being the indoor season and christmas bills hanging high on peoples heads this is the best time to buy Used, upgraded Bolt Actions at well below retail!

[ShelledPants]

Originally Posted by Curo

Using a higher FPS? Not likely as most places want people with experience using higher FPS. Its dangerous to be using a High FPS rifle, best leave that to experienced players.

A note:

It can take YEARS to get well known enough to bring a high power bolt to a field. Odds are, if the field owner AND the game organizer don't know you on a "beers every once in a while" level, you're not going anywhere near a hot gun at 99% of games in Ontario.

[Janus]

Plus, as an organizer speaking how I'm pretty sure any other organizer would;

If I have any doubts about a person wielding a hot gun then they're not using it. Part of that confidence comes from listening to how a person talks. 'Sniping fools' is probably an indication of a shitty attitude.

You'd better believe that at any game I host I walk the parking lot listening around for people bragging about how many head shots they're going to get or how much they're going to light someone up. Attitude is the biggest part of sportsmanship.

[Ricochet]

Well Arby, don't take the direct nature of their posts too harshly, as they are actually steering you in the right direction. This question has been asked countless times on these forums and once such a question reaches infamy, it tends to get direct/no-bullshit answers, often taken as harsh or abrasive.

Here's a question; do you want to be an airsoft sharpshooter, or do you want an airsoft sniper rifle? Sadly my friend, they usually aren't the same, nor include on another. There's nothing wrong with tuning up your gun as best as possible, making it as quiet as possible and trying to play disruptive against opponents forces. To do that with an airsoft sniper rifle can be difficult, expensive and ineffective.

After nearly a decade of airsofting I decided to get a sniper rifle. I bought a top end rifle, threw every high end part, mod and upgrade I could at it, I researched the hell out of it, even had friends very well known and well versed in such rifles help and provide input. After running it a few times I went back to an assault platform. Tons of time and money down the toilet I'm afraid.

To any airsofters who really want to do this anyways, get yourself a reliable assault platform, so you can play anywhere against anyone, then do the sniper rifle as a side project. Airsoft is great to dive into with two feet, but not if your first stop is a sniper platform.

Also, no one on these forums is going to reassure you differently, or not many at any rate.

[Handsonic]

Wanna snipe? Put a scope on an AEG. Snipers are weak in airsoft. This isn't real steel where snipers get added range, accuracy, and power. A CQB M4 can shoot just as far, just as accurately, and just as quietly as a sniper but can also go full auto with midcaps.

[Arby_Winchester]

Thank you for all the suggestions. I really appreciate them. I understand that sniper rifles are super weak against AEGs and others of the sort, and I already have a reliable AEG that suits my needs. Because of this, I have decided to save up a little more and get a higher end VSR 10 as a side project, as ricochet said.
Thanks dudes

[Ricochet]

Originally Posted by Arby_Winchester

Thank you for all the suggestions. I really appreciate them. I understand that sniper rifles are super weak against AEGs and others of the sort, and I already have a reliable AEG that suits my needs. Because of this, I have decided to save up a little more and get a higher end VSR 10 as a side project, as ricochet said.
Thanks dudes

Good choice. I actually had a lot of fun doing my sniper rifle project, except for how hard it was to find all the needed parts at that time. VSR-10 G-Spec is the way to go if you can and its available in Canada. Focus on perfecting the hop-up, run adequate weight high quality BBs and keep your maintenance up. The VSR is super easy to make quiet and can be made silent with some extra effort.

[Curo]

Originally Posted by Ricochet

Good choice. I actually had a lot of fun doing my sniper rifle project, except for how hard it was to find all the needed parts at that time. VSR-10 G-Spec is the way to go if you can and its available in Canada. Focus on perfecting the hop-up, run adequate weight high quality BBs and keep your maintenance up. The VSR is super easy to make quiet and can be made silent with some extra effort.

And we can't mention them cause you are not age verified, but I remember there being a handful of retailers with TM VSR-10 G-Specs either on order or in stock.

[Brian McIlmoyle]

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