What do you guys think of mag fed?

[lVlittens]

Originally Posted by Janus

What? Is your trump card in this department the notion that no one ever could ever possibly hope to bring a SPARE FUCKING BATTERY? What kind of babbling bullshit is that? You sound like one of those late night infomercials.

"HAVE YOU EVER TRIED TO OPEN A CAR DOOR? ALL THAT KNEE BASHING FRUSTRATING CAUGHT ON YOUR SEATBELT DILDOS BEING FIRED AT YOU FROM ACROSS THE STREET? NOW YOU CAN DO IT WITH EASE BY GIVING US YOUR CREDIT CARD NUMBER AND TAKING OUR SHITTY PRODUCT WHICH OPENS THE DOOR, PLAYS THE IMPERIAL MARCH, JACKS YOU OFF AND FAILS WITHIN 37 SECONDS OF FIRST USE"

Fuck.

Yet players still ask around for spare batteries....
If you bring a spare battery you are obviously smarter than the man standing next to you.

The point you addressed isn't regarding a single battery. It's regarding when you run out of batteries. Perhaps I should have made that more clear.

[grantmac]

Mittens, I assume you are from the US correct?

Airsoft is a COMPLETELY different game this side of the border (or at least has been thus far). I've played on both sides and there simply is no comparison. The maturity level and community aspect of airsoft in Canada blows PB entirely out of the water up here, not even a comparison.
Paintball is about as "extreme" as snowboarding on the bunny hill, claiming otherwise is seeing things with a serious paradigm dysfunction.
Airsoft by definition isn't a sport. It's a non-competitive activity and that is a GOOD thing.

It sounds to me as though your experience has been with shitty airsoft equipment and players. Good equipment is very much able to make accurate single-round hits past 200ft. Heck I've made many 60-80yd hits with my GBBR which is far from the most accurate gun on the field. All with ammo costing under $10/500 that isn't effected by moisture.
A correctly setup hop-up throwing heavy BBs will actually increase FPS compared to no hop.

As for feeling a hit, generally a person can feel/hear a BB at around 0.25j of energy. Using .43g BBs even a rifle shooting with 1.6j muzzle energy is going to be able to be felt well past 200ft.

-Grant

[beta678]

Originally Posted by lVlittens

Yet players still ask around for spare batteries....
If you bring a spare battery you are obviously smarter than the man standing next to you.

The point you addressed isn't regarding a single battery. It's regarding when you run out of batteries. Perhaps I should have made that more clear.

I run GBBR's with an AEG backup... I'm still using the same can of propane from May, with 2 spare cans in case I run out. Plus I've got 3 spare batteries for my AEG. A single one of those batteries will last me a full day, the other two are spares. In a couple of weeks I'll probably be getting an HPA setup as well, so I highly doubt I'll be running out of HPA, propane, and batteries...

Most seasoned airsofters using AEG's will have 2 spare batteries in addition to their primary battery, a back up for their back up. GBBR players will have more gas than they know what to do with and spare parts to keep their guns up and running if in the off chance something breaks down. If you've got an HPA setup, you're pretty much good for days on a field with a HPA compressor (which is pretty much every local field in my region).

As for cost, $15 for a bag of bb's will last me multiple game days. Admission fee is $10-15 depending on the field, so airsoft definitely more cost efficient as I'd be spending $15 a month for bb's, and $10-15 for entry each time. And if in the off chance someone does run out of batteries, usually another player will offer to lend you theirs or the field will have spare loaners.

As for paintball, the prices I've seen are usually $10-15 for 100 paintballs, say admission is $10 (this is sorta pushing it as most places I've seen are $20 for drop in PB) and air is another $10, you're looking at minimum ~$50 if you use 300 paintballs for a day, and that's for the average paintball player with their own gear, not someone like yourself with "perks".

PS. if you're in the States, airsoft should be even cheaper.

[ThunderCactus]

I missed the battery comment.
Lipo's are easily available and are dirt cheap for high quality. $8-$22 for an 11.1v 1200-4900mah battery.
Depending on your gun, and how much you shoot, you can go through anywhere from 600mah to 2000mah in a scrim day.
Many battery chargers also hook up to car batteries for charging in the field.

With my PTW, I'll run through about 400mah and 600 rounds in an indoor day, sometimes up to double in an outdoor scrim day. And I hold 3 of the 1200mah sticks in my crane stock, so I never worry about running out of power.
For big ops, if I use my 249, around 10k rounds depending on the length of the game and it gets crazy battery efficiency at only 350-400mah per 3000 round box mag (on a 4900mah battery)

If you know what you're doing, you never run out of juice.

[Janus]

Originally Posted by lVlittens

Yet players still ask around for spare batteries....
If you bring a spare battery you are obviously smarter than the man standing next to you.

The point you addressed isn't regarding a single battery. It's regarding when you run out of batteries. Perhaps I should have made that more clear.

Sure, it also happens when you run out of paintballs or air. Your argument here is flawed because you're trying to make this look like an airsoft only problem.

[ThunderCactus]

And polarstars/SMPs are basically accurate paintball guns with REALLY inexpensive ammo