Sniper Help---WISDOM NEEDED

[Dingo]

Originally Posted by DarkAngel

Just cause your BB can reach that distance, doesnt mean you can hit a barn door at that range.

Very, very true.

My M110 is almost completely upgraded internally, with countless hours of time put into it. Its worth NEW over $1600 and is shooting right around 525 FPS. I use .4s in it, and it can reach out to ~400' MAX with the wind in my favor. Now thats how far it reaches out. I could MAYBE hit 1/5 shots at that range, and Id be lucky to do so. It can accurately hit about a 7/10 shots on a man sized target at ~350'. Thats OVER a 6' vertical spread and OVER a 1.5' horizontal spread! I highly doubt a chinese clone can make it out to 400' with a 2 foot spread which is almost equivilent to a chest size grouping. Thats completely unheard of...

[BioHazarD_99]

well i guess i have the gun that is completely unheard of but now you've heard so its not special anymore

joking aside, i can hit much more that just a barn door and i too have put countless hours into precise tuning and adjusting.

i also never said that im hitting the target every time, i said there was approximately a 2 foot variance from my target.
Not 100% sure why my comment is getting so much attention as it seems that your gun has similar capabilities

[Dingo]

Yes theres a 2' variance, but thats a chest size grouping at 400'. Yes my gun has SIMILAR capabilities, but your chinese clone shoots groupings that are 2/3 better than mine at 50' farther. It is also a chinese clone, and mine is an ares.

If we assume that on a perfect day with zero wind at 350' shooting at a 1' square, my gun will maybe hit about 1-3/5 shots. Yours will hit a guarenteed 3, but maybe 4-5/5 shots. I think thats about right, but lets say the target is a 6'x2' rectangle at 350'. My completely upgraded gun will hit about 7/10 shots. If you are aiming directly at the center every time, you will hit 10/10 shots due to the 2' spread (assuming in every direction).

[ThunderCactus]

you're ARES may not be a clone, but it's still chinese lol

[Dingo]

Originally Posted by ThunderCactus

you're ARES may not be a clone, but it's still chinese lol

Indeed, but more care went into making it than a BA clone gun.

[DarkAngel]

This isnt an Epeen contest on whos rifle can do what.

Bottom line is, avoid clones/knockoffs etc as a base gun.
You might get lucky and get a perfect gun, but more often than less, you end up with poor tolerances, airseal issues etc.

You cant fix those kinds of issues with aftermarket parts. This means that you will likely end up spending 800$+ on internals and upgrades and still end up with airseal problems and misaligned parts.

End of Story.
That is the answer to the OP's question. If he chooses to heed the warning, then great, if not, then thats his problem.
/thread.

[ThunderCactus]

Right
1 out of a few chinese clones will be a good gun, you gotta get lucky
But you can take ANY marui VSR-10 and make it awesome