What would you have between normal AEG vs PTW when you got money??

[Tex]

As he pointed out many times already the retailer he recomends to buy from sells them with the hopup already modded for you.

[mcguyver]

Originally Posted by THe_Silencer

I don't have anything against PTWs but I feel that the above statement is less than accurate. For an aeg that costs $1000+ I find it kinda ridiculous that the hop up will need to be modded for the gun to operate at its full potential. You can argue that this is totally optional but it does not seem like an option when it is advocated by all serious PTW users.

Sure it's an option. I know guys who play nothing but CQB and run the M90 cylinder. Not much need to modify a hop-up for ranges of 50 feet or less.

Besides, I ran a PTW for 2 full seasons and 70,000 rounds on a stock hop-up. Their range advantage over other AEGs was known even then. Modifying the hop-up was done by only a handful of people globally, and PTWs in Canada are sold and used with unmodified hop-ups all the time.

It is an option. If you want even better performance, it is your choice to do so. The gun will function without the mod.

[m102404]

Originally Posted by ThunderCactus

Yeah well I've been doing it for 5 goddamn years non-stop, I'm sick of that crap and I want a gun I don't have to dick with every other weekend.
Having a high end AEG is fine if your comfortable and good at working on them, there are some REALLY good AEG's out there.

But if you don't wanna tear down the gun every month or whatever, and you still want a high performance machine, and you've got the money to get it, then buy a PTW.

Given the money (Which I have), and given that I have tons of experience with average, demon, miracle, and my own AEG's (and I've built some pretty amazing AEG's), I'm still buying a PTW.
Will I regret the decision later in the season? I'll keep you guys posted, but I really don't think so.

/thread damnit

FTW

Originally Posted by ryan1796

I've been playing airsoft about 5 years for now and I've tried many different types of brand and gun. But I still can't decide what should I keep. I have both AEG and PTW.

I just want to ask you guys what would you rather have between AEG vs PTW when you got enough money to upgrade/modify your gun? Also, the reason why.

*This thread is not about which is better and worse, it's about what would you have when you got money and why.*

I've worked on hundreds of AEGs...all types, all build levels, almost all mechboxes. For myself, for "heavy" users, for collectors. All price ranges...from sub $200 to $2000+

I've worked on and built several GBBRs...different makes/builds/repairs. Lots of time in fiddling with some systems...light "orientation" work on others.

I've worked on a few PTWs...and built/rebuilt a couple...nothing to a Tackleberry/McGuyver level of competency, but I feel that I know what I'm doing.

Over the years I have owned/used dozens of AEGs...I have the funds available (and the wherewithal to come up with the funds if I want something) to get anything I want.

My selection criteria for what I keep is:
1. Function
2. Appeal/allure

After all that, what I've ended up with and can summarize is:
1. PTW...CQBR length. Once it is working reliably/consistently, it is a solid, excellent performer. Due to it's design, it lends itself to being "modular" for different setups (i.e. low FPS CQB, high FPS field usage, long DMR styling, etc...)

2. King Arms Galil...solid, reliable V3 mechbox appeal. Interesting styling/asthetics. Very good out of the box performance. It's a fun "hmmm, think I'll try something different today" gun.

3. WE M4 and WE PDW GBBR. It's a different system. It has it's pros and cons. It's not a world beater and the be all, end all. But it works well enough and hands down it is just plain too fun to use. It is also a very effective muscle memory/training tool.

When I go to a serious game the PTW and one of the GBBRs go....if it's a fun gun/casual game and I feel like a change up it'll usually be the Galil/GBBR.

Guys easily hit $1400 with upgrading/modding a good AEG...the last PTW package I saw picked up was (used...but still in great shape) $1400 for the rifle and two handfulls of mags. The in-gun cost is moot...being able to afford it is simply a matter of budgeting.

Re. range...it's a bit of draw from one perspective. The PTW is a better mechanical system/design...but needs some tweaks to get the most out of it. An AEG can be made to shoot as far/well...with more work and with luck (or more work taking things apart and reassembling over and over). Which is easier to work on?...the PTW hopup hands down. Your time/effort might not be worth anything...but I value mine.

Re. rain/moisture...I'm ALWAYS nervous about using my PTW in the rain, but I won't stop and change out guns because I'm there to play not coddle anything. I've NEVER had my PTW quit (although in the very first downpour with it I lost semi and would only shoot full auto). I've since waterproofed my boards and it's never failed...humid/drizzle/downpour/etc...

Re. reliability...I've never actually had a gun go down in game...regardless of type/system. (I will hedge that by saying...I've never had a production ready gun go down....I've blown up experimental stuff in game several times ). The vast majority of guns that I've seen go down at games are AEGs...usually stripped pistons or gears. I've seen a few PTWs retired in game...due to electronics...but those were mostly the older 2007 models.

[kullwarrior]

I really think this thread is past it prime.

Overall if I have to pick a single post best describe things, I would go with Tys

Having own PTW, AEG, and GBBR (Daytonagun, WA, WE, KJW)
I know the pro and cons and I would have to agree with Tys

AEG biggest point is repair and replacement are easily available

PTW biggest point is OOTB a lot finer tune AEG (better trigger response, better consistency, better range, better grouping)

Daytonagun GBBR biggest point is the more realistic than AEG/PTW external air tank, and no need for expensive GBB mag

WE/WA/KJW GBBR biggest point is being the closest to shooting real steel.


Reliability is disputable, none of the gun OOTB is 100% reliable, some thing is gonna need upgrade

PTW: Hop up mod, motor mod

WE/WA GBBR: Steel Moving parts
KJW/Daytonagun: Hop-up mod

[Dynamo]

Originally Posted by THe_Silencer

I don't have anything against PTWs but I feel that the above statement is less than accurate. For an aeg that costs $1000+ I find it kinda ridiculous that the hop up will need to be modded for the gun to operate at its full potential. You can argue that this is totally optional but it does not seem like an option when it is advocated by all serious PTW users.

you should avoid GBBRs.. no really.. it takes something short of a miracle to get it running longer than 2k rounds

[ThunderCactus]

Originally Posted by Dynamo

you should avoid GBBRs.. no really.. it takes something short of a miracle to get it running longer than 2k rounds

Quoted for truth.
They're freaking cool, and incredibly long range with high accuracy when they're working, but you spend a lot of time fixing, spending money on, and cursing at GBBRs lol