KSC Pistols......any good?

[Debrief]

I have nothing but good things to say about KSC USPs, I've owned two of them. Rock solid construction, exceptionally reliable and require little maintenance to keep running tip top. I've never had anything break on them after a couple thousand rounds through each.

I can usually get 50rds off a Propane fill, and accuracy is exceptional within 30m. My one gripe is sluggish recoil, but it's easily remediated with a $4 recoil spring.

[AngelusNex]

Originally Posted by kullwarrior

The biggest flaw as people point out before,
-It not like TM where the pistol can be use to hit people out 150ft
-System 7/NS2 have tight grouping within 100ft, but the accuracy between 100-125 is not spectacular. 125ft+ is a train wreck, grouping is horrible, hop up doesn't work well past it.
-Bucking, I hate to say it the bucking swell is a PITA, there's a reason I keep 3 backup bucking

Put .3 or .36 gram bbs in my KSC glock 18 and it's a laser out to nearly 200 feet. I own 2 ksc pistols and I honestly cant tell why people think they suck. When adjusted properly and cleaned right they rock.

[Coresair]

ditto, I also own a KZ75 and the performance is marvelous. I still feel like I haven't fully exploited it's potential yet but in 2 games I managed 2 kills and I'm more than happy with that. When it gets out it's business time

as far as I'm concerned, I'm sold to KSC/KWA...with the exception of 1911s, not enough support for those (and XDm or M&Ps since they don't make those).

My next buy would probably be an HK45 from them.

[Szevin]

Love my KSC G17. No complaints, it has always served me well.

[L473ncy]

My "workhorse" pistol is a KSC Glock 19. It's definitely a beast for CQC and when engaging below my MED (60 ft.), beyond that.... yeah not that great but who uses a pistol for long range engagements anyways (other than a Mk.23 or 5.1 Hi-Capa)?

For reference, I use .25's in my Glock since you don't really need that extra power/energy that a heavier BB will provide and most "pistol engagements" are below 40 ft. usually anyways.

[Coresair]

Originally Posted by Szevin

Love my KSC G17. No complaints, it has always served me well.

I did hear that their G series was a bit inconsistent fps wise, did you find that to be true?

I'm still surprised they did not offer the sys7 treatment for this gun.

[Danke]

I think the Glock folks stamped on the KSC/KWA variant fairly hard. That's why it's not been updated with the new magazines and has instead become this.

http://kwausa.com/products/ptp/atp/

[Coresair]

Originally Posted by Danke

I think the Glock folks stamped on the KSC/KWA variant fairly hard. That's why it's not been updated with the new magazines and has instead become this.

http://kwausa.com/products/ptp/atp/

screw the ATP, that's an abomination to the sport. Airsoft is all about realism, IMHO the ATP doesn't exist.

[Reckless]

Originally Posted by L473ncy

My "workhorse" pistol is a KSC Glock 19. It's definitely a beast for CQC and when engaging below my MED (60 ft.), beyond that.... yeah not that great but who uses a pistol for long range engagements anyways (other than a Mk.23 or 5.1 Hi-Capa)?

For reference, I use .25's in my Glock since you don't really need that extra power/energy that a heavier BB will provide and most "pistol engagements" are below 40 ft. usually anyways.

*raises hand* Desert eagle X2 ...

in all seriousness... for me a sidearm needs to be something that I can drop my main and stay in the fight with no worries ...

I would include the new S7/NS2 glock, USP variants in that list ... but my bias is still to TM's

[Danke]

Originally Posted by Coresair

screw the ATP, that's an abomination to the sport. Airsoft is all about realism, IMHO the ATP doesn't exist.

It may not exist in your reality but it's what you get if you want a Glock shaped pistol with system 7/NS2 update.

[Disco_Dante]

Originally Posted by Coresair

I did hear that their G series was a bit inconsistent fps wise, did you find that to be true?

I'm still surprised they did not offer the sys7 treatment for this gun.

system seven is based very heavily on the KSC glock design. There'd be no point to updating it. The ATP is internally identical to the KSC g17 except the rocket valve is metal. Even the mags are the same.

[Coresair]

Originally Posted by Disco_Dante

system seven is based very heavily on the KSC glock design. There'd be no point to updating it. The ATP is internally identical to the KSC g17 except the rocket valve is metal. Even the mags are the same.

noted.

[Death March]

I have 6 KSC/KWA Glocks and a KSC USP compact and they all rock,shoot hard. My work sidearm is my G19 and just swapped it for my other G19 as it's been my sidearm for the past 5 years,no issues. I did put a 6.04 tighbore in it and mad a big difference. A.I. Mag just did a review on the G19 saying it has a better hop up for using different weights of BB's over the TM's but didn't shoot as far. It's in the last A.I mag.

[audi_bhoy]

I've got my hands on TM's and KSC's over the last years, as a owner and as a guntech, and I stick to KSC 100% of the time when talking about Glocks.

Their hammer system is by far better than TM's, and when the slide returns the plate that engages the hammer flips over and the returns by a spring, so there's no friction, while the TM has to pass over the hammer, by that way it has to compress the hammer spring once again, losing recoil and return speed.