Year Of The GBBR....or just a stinky smell that's passing through...

Brian McIlmoyle · December 28th, 2010, 12:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cassius

What's the thing with open-bolt systems? Isn't a real AR a closed-bolt system? I'm just confused here...

All open bolt means is there is no brass tube in the receiver

Strelok · December 28th, 2010, 13:47

Yeah, its just a poor choice of terminology on WE's part.

Crunchmeister · December 28th, 2010, 13:48

I don't like their "open bolt" naming. It's a misnomer.

kullwarrior · December 28th, 2010, 16:58

Open nozzle is a better term IMHO

Thenooblord · December 28th, 2010, 17:12

open chamber is the best id say, no confusion

Slow · December 28th, 2010, 17:43

People like the Open bolt b/c it makes it more "realistic".

davedawg123 · December 28th, 2010, 23:35

"Open bolt" doesn't mean the same thing in airsoft as it does in real steel. For airsoft, "open bolt" is more of an "open chamber" system as opposed to the "closed chamber" of WE V1,2, and 3 (i.e. brass tube) which WE refers to as closed bolt/AWSS. I believe WE's V4 is intended to be their version of the "open chamber" system which they refer as "open bolt".

kullwarrior · December 29th, 2010, 03:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slow

People like the Open bolt b/c it makes it more "realistic".

It sound way more snappy and ROF is significantly higher with that.

Amos · December 29th, 2010, 03:46

+ the open chamber system is MUCH more reliable.

Double Tapper · January 2nd, 2011, 00:23

WOW,324 posts,that is quite a read.I own 3 INO's with a forth
on the way.I have had no issues other then the plastic nozzle,
once I switched it to a metal one no issues.I have two bags of
mad bull .20g at 4000 per bag and about 3-4 bags of bbbastards
at 2000 per bag and I'm still going.This is just the one gun.
The others I bought this year and no where near the mileage of
the others yet.

I am currently using GHK mags and I have 15 of them.I also have
the GHK AK74,it is a nice gun,but the mag sucks.I took the valve out
and there are machine tooling lines where it is suppose to be smooth.

killrcanuk · January 2nd, 2011, 17:51

Well I can't speak for everyone but....I have had my WE M4 GBBR for just under a year now and it's game-ability is awesome. With a properly adjusted hop-up the accuracy is excellent. As others have said, gas efficiency and fps consistency can be a problem in cold weather, but the realism and sheer quality of an all metal GBBR just cannot be beat. I use mine mainly for indoor CQB or outdoor skirmishes when weather will allow. I use my AEG rarely these days.

To sum up, I don't think GBBR's are going to replace AEG's anytime soon as they are expensive and require more in the way of maintenance, than most players want to deal with. However, if you have the wallet for it...there is just nothing else that comes anywhere near their realism.

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December 28th, 2010, 13:48	#318
Crunchmeister Trader rating Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: In your bedroom going though your underwear drawer	I don't like their "open bolt" naming. It's a misnomer. __________________

December 28th, 2010, 16:58	#319
kullwarrior Trader rating Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Edmonton, AB, Canada	Open nozzle is a better term IMHO __________________

December 28th, 2010, 17:43	#321
Slow Loves Furries Trader rating Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Manitoba	People like the Open bolt b/c it makes it more "realistic". __________________ If ASC were real life, there would be no Chuck Norris, only CDN_Stalker MANITOBA IVAN

December 28th, 2010, 13:47	#317
Strelok Trader rating Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Brandon Manitoba	Yeah, its just a poor choice of terminology on WE's part.

December 28th, 2010, 23:35	#322
davedawg123 Trader rating Join Date: Jun 2007	"Open bolt" doesn't mean the same thing in airsoft as it does in real steel. For airsoft, "open bolt" is more of an "open chamber" system as opposed to the "closed chamber" of WE V1,2, and 3 (i.e. brass tube) which WE refers to as closed bolt/AWSS. I believe WE's V4 is intended to be their version of the "open chamber" system which they refer as "open bolt".

December 29th, 2010, 03:46	#324
Amos Trader rating Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Japan	+ the open chamber system is MUCH more reliable. __________________ Custom Builds: FA3674U Krinkov G3SD6

January 2nd, 2011, 00:23	#325
Double Tapper Trader rating Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: The land of the over regulated and the banners	WOW,324 posts,that is quite a read.I own 3 INO's with a forth on the way.I have had no issues other then the plastic nozzle, once I switched it to a metal one no issues.I have two bags of mad bull .20g at 4000 per bag and about 3-4 bags of bbbastards at 2000 per bag and I'm still going.This is just the one gun. The others I bought this year and no where near the mileage of the others yet. I am currently using GHK mags and I have 15 of them.I also have the GHK AK74,it is a nice gun,but the mag sucks.I took the valve out and there are machine tooling lines where it is suppose to be smooth. __________________ Last edited by Double Tapper; January 2nd, 2011 at 00:25..

January 2nd, 2011, 17:51	#326
killrcanuk Trader rating Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Calgary, AB	Well I can't speak for everyone but....I have had my WE M4 GBBR for just under a year now and it's game-ability is awesome. With a properly adjusted hop-up the accuracy is excellent. As others have said, gas efficiency and fps consistency can be a problem in cold weather, but the realism and sheer quality of an all metal GBBR just cannot be beat. I use mine mainly for indoor CQB or outdoor skirmishes when weather will allow. I use my AEG rarely these days. To sum up, I don't think GBBR's are going to replace AEG's anytime soon as they are expensive and require more in the way of maintenance, than most players want to deal with. However, if you have the wallet for it...there is just nothing else that comes anywhere near their realism.

Year Of The GBBR....or just a stinky smell that's passing through...

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