Airsoft vs Airguns

[The Saint]

Originally Posted by Wilson

There isn't a day that goes by that I don't wish that the airsoft community would stop being inwardly whiny and become outwardly active in improving the customs situation and clarifying the laws to get us out of this grey area. The problem is, most of the old guys don't give a shit - they have their equipment and they'll keep on maintaining it for as long as they can. They'll play their private games and ignore the rest of the community, with the obvious exception of hating on the new comers.

And a lot of us are tired of people with the gung-ho, let's change the world idealistic attitude without a clue about public policy or the capability to back up such an effort. Stop depicting the community, especially the vets here, as sticking its head in the sand, because that is not how it is. There just isn't anything viable we can do to change the law right now and rocking the boat can make things worse.

You've been here for 4 years, you should have familiarized yourself with the difficulties of our situation by now, not spewing the same ill-informed stuff as someone who's been here for 4 weeks. Instead of deriding and scapegoating other people, try coming up with an idea that's actually workable.

[ProbeJax]

If they made replicas perfectly legal and started blaming people instead of the guns themselves, then video games wouldn't be blamed for stupid kids, and movies wouldn't be blamed for rampant sexuality, and McDonalds wouldn't be blamed for making people fat. Yes, they're only a part of the problem, but we live in a country where we just like to sweep things under the carpet, or shove it in a closet,lock it up and throw away the key.

[Dog Face Killer]

Originally Posted by Wilson

I think the whole thing is retarded, and always have.

One can kill someone just as well with non-restricted firearms. One can cause just as much havoc with the police with a, say, VZ-58, and one can make bombs with common household ingredients. That said, why anything should be prohibited, especially fucking "replicas" is beyond me. I hate it, and I hate the stupid panzies who wrote the laws in the first place.

There isn't a day that goes by that I don't wish that the airsoft community would stop being inwardly whiny and become outwardly active in improving the customs situation and clarifying the laws to get us out of this grey area. The problem is, most of the old guys don't give a shit - they have their equipment and they'll keep on maintaining it for as long as they can. They'll play their private games and ignore the rest of the community, with the obvious exception of hating on the new comers.

The situation is grim, but it does have its positive moments. Either way, something definitely needs to be done.

Not anymore my friend...my current proceeding which has had me defending myself in superior court over the past year has empowered me to actually do something. I'm going to start by talking to the head of the CBSA, RCMP forensic lab in Ottawa...and if need be, file a motion in Federal court.

All it takes is one!

[MestHead]

Or someone could fly them into canada on a private plane and before landing drop the cargo and safeley parachute some aegs into a specific field that no one knows about except the people that ordered the guns.

[Dog Face Killer]

Originally Posted by MestHead

Or someone could fly them into canada on a private plane and before landing drop the cargo and safeley parachute some aegs into a specific field that no one knows about except the people that ordered the guns.

I like that idea...as long as i get to ride the parachute!

[waltherglocksmith]

Air soft guns that meet the definition of a replica firearm are prohibited. Replica firearms are devices that resemble a real firearm (other than an antique firearm) with near precision but that cannot cause serious injury or death. Many of these devices have to be assessed case by case to determine if they are replicas

http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/cfp-pcaf/faq/im-ex-eng.htm#f6


To meet the controlled firearm category, airsoft gun should shoot at more than 406fps of velocity. (see P.16 Point 54, ''b'' paragraph of the pdf link below)

http://cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/publications/...9-13-2-fra.pdf

but this airgun is 200fps and are copy of the Colt gun and still 100% legal and sold at canadiantire

http://www.marksman.com/2000k_lhkit.php

don't understand.....


405fps is not harmfull??? because that's what the law says ''cannot cause serious injury or death''

I will not try to put my face in front of my 300fps TM Glock 17 fully loaded with propane.

there is something wrong in the law.

[mcguyver]

The spirit of the law:

If it's harmless, it's prohibited. If it's harmful, even lethal, it is virtually unregulated.

[waltherglocksmith]

The spirit of the law:

If it's harmless, it's prohibited. If it's harmful, even lethal, it is virtually unregulated.

Did someone tried to measure the FPS of the Tokyo marui Glock 17 or 18 with propane or stronger gas?, just for fun if it reach 406fps?, if it reach this velocity, it will be a begining to argue with the custom...

''spirit of the law'' is weird...

harmfull gun = OK man no problem you can get one.

innofensive gun = your a dangerous criminal!!

[mcguyver]

Originally Posted by waltherglocksmith

Did someone tried to measure the FPS of the Tokyo marui Glock 17 or 18 with propane or stronger gas?, just for fun if it reach 406fps?, if it reach this velocity, it will be a begining to argue with the custom...

''spirit of the law'' is weird...

harmfull gun = OK man no problem you can get one.

innofensive gun = your a dangerous criminal!!

The design of most GBB pistols is such that they will never reach the velocity required. I've never chrono'd a Marui GBB beyond about 380, and that was at 30 degrees out with Green gas in a Desert Eagle. Most guns will sit at 300 or less, especially at room temperature.

Our laws were written by anti-gun zealots bent on social re-engineering. They were not written by firearms experts, nor were they written to account for the reality of guns in Canada. Don't be surprised that they are counter-intuitive, convoluted and contradictory. You would have had better results getting Inuit to write urban traffic laws.

[sortie39]

the 1st sentence in the 3rd paragraph doesnt make any sense!!
airsoft guns are essentially replica firearms!

btw,airguns with RS frames are not OK to bring in either! For instance,the Baikal series airguns!