Shimming

warbird · July 13th, 2009, 23:23

Any tips on shimming?

Thanks.

Eeyore · July 13th, 2009, 23:25

Here.

http://www.mechbox.com/

Muffin · July 13th, 2009, 23:36

Mechbox.com is where it's at, great detail abnd descriptive video. Hope it helps.

warbird · July 14th, 2009, 06:37

Thanks.

m102404 · July 14th, 2009, 09:36

I haven't watched mechbox.com...so apologies if the following is in the vids.

1. Google "Devgru Shim Guide"...one of the nicest write ups out there. Excellent pics.

2. There's no magic formula...what thickness shim that works on one setup may not (probably won't) work for another.

3. Degrease (just wipe it down clean with a kleenex) the mechbox, gears, shims and bushings...makes swapping shims a lot easier.

4. Use a sharp knife/xacto to pick "stuck" shims off of gears

5. Normally remove the cylinder/piston/tappet/nozzle/spring/spring guide while shimming. Consider also removing the cutoff lever/selector plate/trigger/(anything else that's in the way) as well....it makes it easier to "feel" both sides of the mechbox/bushings/axels.

6. As you're testing...tighten at least 4 screws evenly around the mechbox. With some not so great parts...snugging up the shell changes the clearance dramatically. Final test by tightening up all the screws

7. When you think you've got it, grease up the gears, don't put everything back in, tighten up all the screws. Spin the sector gear by hand (or by reattaching the motor (you've got to put the selector/cutoff/tigger back in). Open it back up, remove the gears and clean out any excess grease that was flung off the gears.

I found the above helpful over time with various mechboxes...best of luck!

Tys

warbird · July 14th, 2009, 17:36

Awesome! Thanks!

Darklen · July 14th, 2009, 18:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by m102404

Consider also removing the cutoff lever...

Leave the cut off lever in place. You'll need to ensure the sector gear can clear it so it operates properly. Also, I've never had to remove anything other the the top end (cylender assembly parts) to shim a gearbox. Certainly no reason why not, just a lot of unecessary work IMO.

m102404 · July 14th, 2009, 20:46

I've found that on some mechboxes that the selector plate pushes on the right side bushing and makes it difficult to feel the axle/bushing. Removing the plate clears the path to change out the bushing (plastic) or bearing and install a metal bushing.

I use one of MadMax's tools to set the bushings square to the mechbox shell...and it can't be done with the selector plate in place.

To remove the selector plate, I remove the cutoff lever...

You certainly don't HAVE to remove it...just a consideration.

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July 13th, 2009, 23:23	#1
warbird Trader rating Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: NB, Canada	Shimming Any tips on shimming? Thanks.

July 13th, 2009, 23:36	#3
Muffin Trader rating Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Manitoba	Mechbox.com is where it's at, great detail abnd descriptive video. Hope it helps.

July 14th, 2009, 06:37	#4
warbird Trader rating Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: NB, Canada	Thanks.

July 14th, 2009, 09:36	#5
m102404 Tys Trader rating Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Toronto	I haven't watched mechbox.com...so apologies if the following is in the vids. 1. Google "Devgru Shim Guide"...one of the nicest write ups out there. Excellent pics. 2. There's no magic formula...what thickness shim that works on one setup may not (probably won't) work for another. 3. Degrease (just wipe it down clean with a kleenex) the mechbox, gears, shims and bushings...makes swapping shims a lot easier. 4. Use a sharp knife/xacto to pick "stuck" shims off of gears 5. Normally remove the cylinder/piston/tappet/nozzle/spring/spring guide while shimming. Consider also removing the cutoff lever/selector plate/trigger/(anything else that's in the way) as well....it makes it easier to "feel" both sides of the mechbox/bushings/axels. 6. As you're testing...tighten at least 4 screws evenly around the mechbox. With some not so great parts...snugging up the shell changes the clearance dramatically. Final test by tightening up all the screws 7. When you think you've got it, grease up the gears, don't put everything back in, tighten up all the screws. Spin the sector gear by hand (or by reattaching the motor (you've got to put the selector/cutoff/tigger back in). Open it back up, remove the gears and clean out any excess grease that was flung off the gears. I found the above helpful over time with various mechboxes...best of luck! Tys

July 14th, 2009, 17:36	#6
warbird Trader rating Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: NB, Canada	Awesome! Thanks!

July 14th, 2009, 20:46	#8
m102404 Tys Trader rating Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Toronto	I've found that on some mechboxes that the selector plate pushes on the right side bushing and makes it difficult to feel the axle/bushing. Removing the plate clears the path to change out the bushing (plastic) or bearing and install a metal bushing. I use one of MadMax's tools to set the bushings square to the mechbox shell...and it can't be done with the selector plate in place. To remove the selector plate, I remove the cutoff lever... You certainly don't HAVE to remove it...just a consideration.

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