Do you hate ARES?

HKGhost · November 13th, 2011, 18:21

Magpul "PTS" is completely separate from Magpul Industries. Magpul PTS is from Hong Kong (that's what I've been told) and to keep cost down, using Ares (which is based in HK) would be the best choice. Also, Ares is known to do unique and out of the norm guns. So if Ares f* up, Magpul Industries reputation won't be harmed. Only Magpul PTS.

SuperHog · November 13th, 2011, 18:25

As long as the name Magpul and logo are on the products, it is Magpul to everyone.

Just checked the back of the box on my AFG2, it says " PTS by Magpul Industries Corp".

Eeyore · November 13th, 2011, 18:42

Ares does make the Magpul Masada.

BadAssMoFo · November 14th, 2011, 20:04

I own two ARES airsoft guns and I must say, I'm satisfied with how they perform (upto now). One is the UMP and the other is the L1A1. I was attracted to them initially for their exterior build quality and trades.

I have no gripes or groans as of yet with regard to their performance, but maybe I've been lucky?

Grimreaper 295 · November 14th, 2011, 20:13

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Originally Posted by Grimreaper 295

I have sent request for a few parts. I will update on how that goes so anyone here can see Ares in action...or not! Fingers crossed!

Nov. 8 until now? Sweet fuck all in terms of response. One thing about Ares...they are wildly consistent in their shit-ness. Way to go guys. You help make my point for me. Stay away from Ares!!!! Their customer support sucks ass!

Styrak · November 14th, 2011, 20:38

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Originally Posted by Danke

It seems that STAR became SRC and Ares went their own way.

STAR and SRC are different companies.

tintin1223456 · November 16th, 2011, 14:20

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Originally Posted by Grimreaper 295

Nov. 8 until now? Sweet fuck all in terms of response. One thing about Ares...they are wildly consistent in their shit-ness. Way to go guys. You help make my point for me. Stay away from Ares!!!! Their customer support sucks ass!

Yeah they didn't respond to one of my emails either. I just sent them another one. If it's been a week, I'd send another one. Emails are free. they should have at least acknowledged your email. The three times I got stuff from them, it seems like I was talking to the same person. I don't know if there is just one person working there.

ShelledPants · November 16th, 2011, 14:29

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Originally Posted by SuperHog

As long as the name Magpul and logo are on the products, it is Magpul to everyone.

Just checked the back of the box on my AFG2, it says " PTS by Magpul Industries Corp".

There is a -huge- quality difference between real Magpul and licensed (pts) magpul parts. They literally feel different. (Different materials, specs)

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Originally Posted by Danke

It seems that STAR became SRC and Ares went their own way.

My limited understanding of the situation is that STAR was manufacturing guns using a company in China, that company then stole their product designs and sold them OEM as ARES. ARES then made massive improvements on STARS designs (Metal gearboxes, different higher quality metals, less plastics), and simultaneously stopped producing STAR's guns, shutting STAR out and creating an aftermarket parts demand for STAR's guns as well as making guns better than what STAR had on the market, for less.

This is all hearsay, but if you followed ARES from when they first started up, it makes a lot of sense.

pusangani · November 16th, 2011, 16:30

SRC is Star Rainbow Company out of Taiwan

SniperSam · November 16th, 2011, 19:25

Funny, I thought G&P made Magpul guns...

Saw it here and here

SlowEddy · November 21st, 2011, 21:15

I've had my fair share of mech box problems with my Ares M60E4 over the years. they were all fixable with the use of generic parts.

finally broke a proprietary part the other day.

its a small plastic piece which holds the spring guide in the mech box. this lever allows for quick spring changes.

the contact point it makes against the spring guide is no more than 5mm

thought about contacting Ares to get a replacement part... but decided not to since it such a poorly designed part that would eventually fail on me again. also with all the comments in this thread i think it would probably take weeks to get the part (if I'm lucky)

I decided to fix this crappy / flawed design with a piece of wood I found in the dark corners of my basement.

tested it with modify m120+, m130+ and m140+ springs.... it works....
on top of that I still have the ability to preform quick spring changes...

.....so there you have it.... my Ares m60 mech box is being held together with a piece of wood I found in the dark corners of my basement which works better than the proprietary part it came with....

medhatboy · November 27th, 2011, 23:12

Haven't even received my Ares yet, and I'm starting to hate it already. Looked at every retailer I can think of overseas and can't find mags for it, everyone I looked at had them listed as "out of stock". Hoping to get a few more before the season starts again in April. And it's an Ares L1A1 SLR that I have coming.

Adamlxlx · November 27th, 2011, 23:25

Just picked up a Ares g36kv yesterday. First ares gun, don't quite know where I stand with it yet. Build quality is not as good as I expected, handguard has a bit of play, some things are rough/not finished off well. Haven't shot it outside yet or even gamed it so we will see. Mags are already a problem, was going to purchase a KA 5 mag set but to my dismay they did not even fit in the gun. Anyone have this gun? What mags do you use? I have heard MAG brand work.

Danke · November 27th, 2011, 23:39

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Originally Posted by medhatboy

Haven't even received my Ares yet, and I'm starting to hate it already. Looked at every retailer I can think of overseas and can't find mags for it, everyone I looked at had them listed as "out of stock". Hoping to get a few more before the season starts again in April. And it's an Ares L1A1 SLR that I have coming.

Put stock alerts on them in a few places.

ThunderCactus · November 28th, 2011, 01:59

G&P does have a huge license with magpul, but they aren't the only company that puts magpul parts on stock AEGs.

And from tons of experience working on them, I've decided that all PGC style LMG mechboxes are just crap. They're plagued with TM spec gearset fitment issues, some have proprietary tappet plates, and they're all used in conjunction with a CA style M249 hop chamber that was never very good to begin with, and always develops a horrible air leak later on. Not to mention box mags, can't speak for any others, but the CA boxes are total crap. I hear A&K is the way to go for boxes but I could be wrong...
The G&P 249 series V2 mechbox is definitely the way to go. I've never had any sealing, hopup or mechbox issue with my V2 LMG. And now that ARS makes sorbo cyl heads, you never have to worry about the mechbox cracking either. The box mags are solid, pretty sure the boxes are real steel plastic. And it uses a tried tested and awesome AUG hopup chamber.

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November 13th, 2011, 18:21	#106
HKGhost Trader rating Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Mississauga, ON	Magpul "PTS" is completely separate from Magpul Industries. Magpul PTS is from Hong Kong (that's what I've been told) and to keep cost down, using Ares (which is based in HK) would be the best choice. Also, Ares is known to do unique and out of the norm guns. So if Ares f* up, Magpul Industries reputation won't be harmed. Only Magpul PTS. __________________ Please email me as I'm not on ASC too often. Custom Build \| Upgrades \| Repairs \| Maintenance Contact: ghostgunwork@gmail.com / Private Message

November 14th, 2011, 20:04	#109
BadAssMoFo Trader rating Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Merseyside UK	I own two ARES airsoft guns and I must say, I'm satisfied with how they perform (upto now). One is the UMP and the other is the L1A1. I was attracted to them initially for their exterior build quality and trades. I have no gripes or groans as of yet with regard to their performance, but maybe I've been lucky? __________________

November 16th, 2011, 16:30	#114
pusangani Official ASC "Dumb Ass" Trader rating Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Scarbrah, Ontario	SRC is Star Rainbow Company out of Taiwan __________________

November 16th, 2011, 19:25	#115
SniperSam Trader rating Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Edmonton, AB	Funny, I thought G&P made Magpul guns... Saw it here and here __________________ Proud Member of the Strelok society Whoa guy with the thumb rings, save some pussy for the rest of us Welcome to Bed Bath and Beyoncé, if you find anything you like, put a ring on it. What idiot called them Black Bears instead of African Abearicans

November 21st, 2011, 21:15	#116
SlowEddy Trader rating Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: M.Sauga	I've had my fair share of mech box problems with my Ares M60E4 over the years. they were all fixable with the use of generic parts. finally broke a proprietary part the other day. its a small plastic piece which holds the spring guide in the mech box. this lever allows for quick spring changes. the contact point it makes against the spring guide is no more than 5mm thought about contacting Ares to get a replacement part... but decided not to since it such a poorly designed part that would eventually fail on me again. also with all the comments in this thread i think it would probably take weeks to get the part (if I'm lucky) I decided to fix this crappy / flawed design with a piece of wood I found in the dark corners of my basement. tested it with modify m120+, m130+ and m140+ springs.... it works.... on top of that I still have the ability to preform quick spring changes... .....so there you have it.... my Ares m60 mech box is being held together with a piece of wood I found in the dark corners of my basement which works better than the proprietary part it came with.... __________________

November 27th, 2011, 23:12	#117
medhatboy formerly Swatt Five-Six Trader rating Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Medicine Hat, Alberta	Haven't even received my Ares yet, and I'm starting to hate it already. Looked at every retailer I can think of overseas and can't find mags for it, everyone I looked at had them listed as "out of stock". Hoping to get a few more before the season starts again in April. And it's an Ares L1A1 SLR that I have coming.

November 27th, 2011, 23:25	#118
Adamlxlx Trader rating Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Guelph	Just picked up a Ares g36kv yesterday. First ares gun, don't quite know where I stand with it yet. Build quality is not as good as I expected, handguard has a bit of play, some things are rough/not finished off well. Haven't shot it outside yet or even gamed it so we will see. Mags are already a problem, was going to purchase a KA 5 mag set but to my dismay they did not even fit in the gun. Anyone have this gun? What mags do you use? I have heard MAG brand work.

November 28th, 2011, 01:59	#120
ThunderCactus Not Eye Safe, Pretty Boy Maximus on the field take his picture! Trader rating Join Date: Feb 2007	G&P does have a huge license with magpul, but they aren't the only company that puts magpul parts on stock AEGs. And from tons of experience working on them, I've decided that all PGC style LMG mechboxes are just crap. They're plagued with TM spec gearset fitment issues, some have proprietary tappet plates, and they're all used in conjunction with a CA style M249 hop chamber that was never very good to begin with, and always develops a horrible air leak later on. Not to mention box mags, can't speak for any others, but the CA boxes are total crap. I hear A&K is the way to go for boxes but I could be wrong... The G&P 249 series V2 mechbox is definitely the way to go. I've never had any sealing, hopup or mechbox issue with my V2 LMG. And now that ARS makes sorbo cyl heads, you never have to worry about the mechbox cracking either. The box mags are solid, pretty sure the boxes are real steel plastic. And it uses a tried tested and awesome AUG hopup chamber.

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