A.P.S CAM870 CO2 Powered Shotgun

beta678 · November 22nd, 2014, 03:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by BioRage

Alright, Parts from EVIKE came in, installed this ASAP!

- 4+1 Spring
- End cap (Swivel removed in photo)
- 14" Outer Barrel

LIKE

N_Force · November 22nd, 2014, 07:03

Hey BR, is the shell loading smooth on the 14" barrel? Any wobble between barrel and receiver?

BioRage · December 8th, 2014, 00:02

Comparison images.

SF vs Magnum,

Trades are different on the SF + Magnum, the SF has the Generation 2 bolt, where the Magnum has the generation 1 bolt.

Not a fan of the SF grip, doesn't feel all that nice, definitely needs a RS one on there. The fore-grip needs a changing out too!

SF Police with 16" outer-barrel.

Notice bolts are different.

N_Force · December 11th, 2014, 00:30

Holy piece of crap. The replacement reinforce pushing pin is way off spec. Lots of mod and hard to align for Gen one bolt. Not even sure if that works tho? But for sure if you're still using the older version of shells that have the narrow space end cap, it possible would break this pushing pin again. Can't believe APS makes this piece of garbage that doesn't fit it's own product?? Or I may not good enough to get it done??

rOnii · December 11th, 2014, 13:36

You mean there is a new version of the shell ? New bolt I knew it but shells...

N_Force · December 11th, 2014, 13:53

New End Cap version the comes with the latest shells

http://www.aps-concept.com/index.php...product_id=480

rOnii · December 11th, 2014, 16:05

ohhh ok !

Do you know which barrel lenght matches with the APS +1 extension ?

PS : thx you for your help about the APS maintenance

N_Force · December 11th, 2014, 17:07

IMO, any one will fit. It depends on how do you like the way it looks. On RS shotgun, some of them have longer shell tube than the barrel. At first I didn't like it. Since I have the 16" original barrel, then I shorten the shells tube. Now I have the +1 on it, looks not bad tho. Tried it with 14" barrel, also looks good. But if you like to have a balance look, the new 16" with thread is the one after you add the flash hilder(choke tube) in front of barrel.
three of the looks: long barrel with shot shells tube, both are same length, or short barrel with long shell tube. Pick whatever you like, simple!
If I could afford it, I would have all three of the size from 16", 14" and the new AOW all versions collected. I'm now waiting for the AOW arrive new year January. If you even noticed my post in Marui M870, I have both versions already, the full size M870 and Breacher.

N_Force · December 11th, 2014, 22:00

APS-concept replied me that this pushing pin is designed for generation 2 bolt but never mention on the item description. What a service support?? Even they said it needed a bit modify to make it works, told me to check with local dealer to find out how. Do you think I could get someone in Toronto to help me out. Hah! Why don't they just guide to diy it?? Poor customer service.

BioRage · December 12th, 2014, 10:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by N_Force

APS-concept replied me that this pushing pin is designed for generation 2 bolt but never mention on the item description. What a service support?? Even they said it needed a bit modify to make it works, told me to check with local dealer to find out how. Do you think I could get someone in Toronto to help me out. Hah! Why don't they just guide to diy it?? Poor customer service.

Lol, that is quite sad. I doubt any local dealers would know anything about that.

Good thing they replied, and atleast we know now!

rOnii · December 12th, 2014, 11:01

By "matches" I meant the barrel and the extension at the same lenght.

So for having the +1 extension comes flush to the barrel the good combo is +1 extension + 16inch barrel , am I right ?

thx again

N_Force · December 12th, 2014, 17:28

I don't have the 16" with thread barrel. Based on my 14" barrel with the +one shell tube, the barrel shorten around 2", if 16" thread barrel is same 2" longer than the 14" one, that would be close to same length, more or less. If you need pics for reference that I have, let me know

rOnii · December 12th, 2014, 22:23

I would appreciate your pics for sure !

!

So I could make a good idea of the result !

thx again mate !

N_Force · December 12th, 2014, 22:48

here you go..

Top - 14" barrel
Bottom - 20" barrel with +1

14" barrel and +1 shell tube, the 2" choke tube on side cause no thread on barrel

rOnii · December 15th, 2014, 09:03

2nd one on the first is 20inch + 1, no ? instead of 16 + 1

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November 22nd, 2014, 07:03	#92
N_Force Trader rating Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Toronto, Ontario	Hey BR, is the shell loading smooth on the 14" barrel? Any wobble between barrel and receiver? __________________ aka Uncle

December 11th, 2014, 00:30	#94
N_Force Trader rating Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Toronto, Ontario	Holy piece of crap. The replacement reinforce pushing pin is way off spec. Lots of mod and hard to align for Gen one bolt. Not even sure if that works tho? But for sure if you're still using the older version of shells that have the narrow space end cap, it possible would break this pushing pin again. Can't believe APS makes this piece of garbage that doesn't fit it's own product?? Or I may not good enough to get it done?? __________________ aka Uncle Last edited by N_Force; December 11th, 2014 at 10:33..

December 11th, 2014, 13:53	#96
N_Force Trader rating Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Toronto, Ontario	New End Cap version the comes with the latest shells http://www.aps-concept.com/index.php...product_id=480 __________________ aka Uncle

December 8th, 2014, 00:02	#93
BioRage Trader rating Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Toronto	Comparison images. SF vs Magnum, Trades are different on the SF + Magnum, the SF has the Generation 2 bolt, where the Magnum has the generation 1 bolt. Not a fan of the SF grip, doesn't feel all that nice, definitely needs a RS one on there. The fore-grip needs a changing out too! SF Police with 16" outer-barrel. Notice bolts are different.

December 11th, 2014, 13:36	#95
rOnii Trader rating Join Date: Jan 2010	You mean there is a new version of the shell ? New bolt I knew it but shells...

December 11th, 2014, 16:05	#97
rOnii Trader rating Join Date: Jan 2010	ohhh ok ! Do you know which barrel lenght matches with the APS +1 extension ? PS : thx you for your help about the APS maintenance

December 11th, 2014, 17:07	#98
N_Force Trader rating Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Toronto, Ontario	IMO, any one will fit. It depends on how do you like the way it looks. On RS shotgun, some of them have longer shell tube than the barrel. At first I didn't like it. Since I have the 16" original barrel, then I shorten the shells tube. Now I have the +1 on it, looks not bad tho. Tried it with 14" barrel, also looks good. But if you like to have a balance look, the new 16" with thread is the one after you add the flash hilder(choke tube) in front of barrel. three of the looks: long barrel with shot shells tube, both are same length, or short barrel with long shell tube. Pick whatever you like, simple! If I could afford it, I would have all three of the size from 16", 14" and the new AOW all versions collected. I'm now waiting for the AOW arrive new year January. If you even noticed my post in Marui M870, I have both versions already, the full size M870 and Breacher. __________________ aka Uncle Last edited by N_Force; December 11th, 2014 at 17:15..

December 11th, 2014, 22:00	#99
N_Force Trader rating Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Toronto, Ontario	APS-concept replied me that this pushing pin is designed for generation 2 bolt but never mention on the item description. What a service support?? Even they said it needed a bit modify to make it works, told me to check with local dealer to find out how. Do you think I could get someone in Toronto to help me out. Hah! Why don't they just guide to diy it?? Poor customer service. __________________ aka Uncle

December 12th, 2014, 11:01	#101
rOnii Trader rating Join Date: Jan 2010	By "matches" I meant the barrel and the extension at the same lenght. So for having the +1 extension comes flush to the barrel the good combo is +1 extension + 16inch barrel , am I right ? thx again

December 12th, 2014, 17:28	#102
N_Force Trader rating Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Toronto, Ontario	I don't have the 16" with thread barrel. Based on my 14" barrel with the +one shell tube, the barrel shorten around 2", if 16" thread barrel is same 2" longer than the 14" one, that would be close to same length, more or less. If you need pics for reference that I have, let me know __________________ aka Uncle

December 12th, 2014, 22:23	#103
rOnii Trader rating Join Date: Jan 2010	I would appreciate your pics for sure ! ! So I could make a good idea of the result ! thx again mate !

December 12th, 2014, 22:48	#104
N_Force Trader rating Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Toronto, Ontario	here you go.. Top - 14" barrel Bottom - 20" barrel with +1 14" barrel and +1 shell tube, the 2" choke tube on side cause no thread on barrel __________________ aka Uncle Last edited by N_Force; December 15th, 2014 at 09:37.. Reason: wrong length

December 15th, 2014, 09:03	#105
rOnii Trader rating Join Date: Jan 2010	2nd one on the first is 20inch + 1, no ? instead of 16 + 1

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