Year Of The GBBR....or just a stinky smell that's passing through...

[m102404]

I should really cut my losses and stop now....

My "final" setup is:
- 2.74mm spacer threaded onto the rod...pushing the floating valve up further ahead....
-- it was fairly reliable at shooting just below 350fps w/0.20g BBs, but the first couple of shots from a fresh gassing were over.

- I cut the stock barrel back to CQBR length (it extends about 3-5mm past the threading of the outer barrel with the M4A1 extension removed

- Freshly gassed the first shots come out at 340fps...the rest hover in the mid 330 range...last couple are 300-310-ish. I'll have to do some more careful testing.

- With a Madbull Firepig "amplifier" on it....it'll leave a ringing in your ear when shooting in a small workshop....fracken LOUD!
-- best to space the Firepig out if you have a bayonet lug...an o-ring and a nice flashhider collar work perfectly.

NOTE: Whoever decided to start the outer barrel section/threading at 10" instead of 10.5" should be shot...or at least teabagged while he sleeps....

I need a bigger lathe..... (or at least one with a bigger diameter through spindle).

[Ronan]

Originally Posted by RacingManiac

JG is a WA clone, so all the associated WA issues should be there with the mag....

Thats why you go AGM. Their mags take propane out of the box. Some have o-ring problem, its a $2 fix.

[prepaidpwnage]

Any reason why you didnt get the RA TECH piece that allows you to adjust the fps? Im looking at getting an agm from them that they put a metal hop up in and with the fps piece.


And as far as o-rings go, do you think you can use the ones from your local hardware store or do you have to get something like the g&p set?

http://shop.ehobbyasia.com/gandp-mag...a1-series.html

[m102404]

Because I'm cheap and like to fiddle with stuff...LOL. Typically in the end, it ends up being a very expensive and labour intensive way to go about things

The WE SCAR NPAS system seems like it would work...although I'm not sure how well it'll hold it setting with sustained usage.

Until I see and get a chance to compare the SCAR nozzle and the M4A1 nozzle...I don't want to shell out for something that might not fit.

Tys

[prepaidpwnage]

RA Tech specifically makes a NPAS system for the m4. http://www.redwolfairsoft.com/redwol...l?prodID=27475

Unless I'm mistaken.

[m102404]

Thanks, but that's the one for the Inokatsu M4...not the WE AWSS.

Tys

[RacingManiac]

Originally Posted by Ronan

Thats why you go AGM. Their mags take propane out of the box. Some have o-ring problem, its a $2 fix.

So does Bomber and G&P modded WA mags and GHK, they all take propane, but they all leak eventually....

Mags are the weakest link in the WA system(and doesn't sound so great in WE neither)...they seriously need better mags for these....

[Hata]

So WE vs G&P, which one you guys still prefer?

[safx]

So far, the GBBR's appear to be
finicky money guzzlers that have
yet to settle on one "perfected"
all metal internal design. I thought
WA pistols were expensive uhg...

I'm interested in one of course
but not with all the threads around
discussing the problems arising
from combining all the different
brands. Hopefully the after market
guys will produce reliable complete
drop in kits, under the cost of a PTW.

Awaiting a thread discussing the
best build of what's available for a
reasonable AEG cost.

[Ronan]

Take a AGM or Ino or G&P, fit ra-tech NPAS bolt carrier + triguer set. Voila done.

[m102404]

Originally Posted by Ronan

Take a AGM or Ino or G&P, fit ra-tech NPAS bolt carrier + triguer set. Voila done.

You seem really definitive on the choice...why specifically?

I've seen/handled/shot the Inokatsu but not the ins-outs of it. I've never handled the AGM nor the G&P.

What are the most significant parts/points of the AGM/Ino/G&P that would make you choose it over the WE?

Thanks,

Tys

[Hata]

Originally Posted by Ronan

Take a AGM or Ino or G&P, fit ra-tech NPAS bolt carrier + triguer set. Voila done.

WE people speak up!
I wanna hear someone that own WE, why they choose WE?

[Hata]

Originally Posted by m102404

You seem really definitive on the choice...why specifically?

I've seen/handled/shot the Inokatsu but not the ins-outs of it. I've never handled the AGM nor the G&P.

What are the most significant parts/points of the AGM/Ino/G&P that would make you choose it over the WE?

Thanks,

Tys

I believe the availability of aftermarket parts make everyone to choose AGM/INO/G&P. (especially huang will have some GBBR parts available soon... )

[Brian McIlmoyle]

Originally Posted by Hata

WE people speak up!
I wanna hear someone that own WE, why they choose WE?

To me .. it seemed to be the most robust system.. I have had 0 issues with mine.. out of the box.. Everyone that has anything else have dumped $ in to get it to where my WE started.

Ill know more when I have done more field testing... but so far... the only issue I have had is with a couple of minor leaks in mags.. Oh and the front sling swivel fell off.... I run single point so it just saved me taking it off.

[safx]

Thanks Bri

I heard a lot of people are generally
happy with the WE v3 GBBR. But since
they're a brand I hate for their previous
offerings, it's going to take some serious
convincing— field time, determining the
quality of their metal/system design
before I jump on a $500(US)+ toy.

I guess you can say my main concern is
durability over everything else. I don't
want to pay a premium and then have
to waste time and lots of cash on parts
that shouldn't break quickly. Mind you,
I would buy expensive CNC'd alu/steel
stuff if it's proven or guaranteed. Imagine
that concept in airsoft, guaranteed... lol.

I'll have a VFC AK with a drop in GBB
GHK system soon. I'm sure it'll croak
quickly, so I'll be interested in a nice
replacement kit.