Systema PTW Basic Info and FAQ

KEVORKIAN · June 5th, 2008, 18:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kokanee

I've not tested metal tech brand bbs yet, but I have found that bb bastard brand runs awesome, no chopping in .2, .25 and .28g weights.

I second this!
I used to run AE bb's with the stock inner barrel but I have since switched to the PDI tightbore and I can only run BB Bastards with them...go figure!
Don't even get me started on the Metal (chop) Tech bb's!!!
.25 & .28 are the way to go for me!
What seems to work for one guy doesn't necessarily work for the next !

KEVORKIAN · June 5th, 2008, 18:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by swatt13

i tried the mag repair and doesnt seem to have done a whole lot, i stretched them more than just a little. but heres my other question, i see there are two springs in there, seeing as i dont double load them, if i took out the first spring and put filler in place of the second spring, this would not only resolve the jamming/ loading issues but would make it a low cap, anyone done this or have any comments?

What exactly are you experiencing with your mag issues? Dry fire?

Not too sure about removing one of the springs...doesn't hurt to experiment!
Just wanted to add that I use a stock TM XL loader and ditched the loading tube a very long time ago...no problems here!

LeGROS · June 5th, 2008, 22:59

Jay and me are using Metal Tech ,25 and ,20 and have no problemo!!

Never try BB Bastards... They did not give us a good price for my last order... Now I'm fidel to Mtech!

And do have this 40$ charger who is working fine for me!

Other subject

Is there Hi Mag for PTW?? OR max is 120??

Kokanee · June 5th, 2008, 23:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by KEVORKIAN

...
.25 & .28 are the way to go for me!
What seems to work for one guy doesn't necessarily work for the next !

After running .28's in my PTW for a season, my hop rubber wore out, <UNCLASS>int on this subject seems to indicate that one shouldn't run anything heavier than .25 in a PTW<END OF COLLATERAL>... I'll be trying that out this season.

mcguyver · June 5th, 2008, 23:46

I've run at least 30,000 rounds through my CQB-R, mostly with M130 (about 20K) and M110 (about 10K) and the rubber was still OK when I checked it this spring.

I guess it would stand to reason that with the heavier BB, more pressure is required which means the rubber will wear faster. But, considering a replacement cage/roller is about $12-$15, a once-per-year replacement won't break the bank.

If you like the performance of the 0.28s vs the 0.25s, I would stick with the 0.28s and just replace that roller as part of an annual maintenance.

And Metal Tech has not chopped, misfed or jammed on me once. KSC Perfect 0.25s were another story. If you have consistant jamming or misfeeding, check the barrel alignment. I've fixed that one before, and on the field yet during a game.

Fox Hound · June 20th, 2008, 13:58

i just purchased brand new mags, the six pack. All but one seems to be feeding fine. I did the spring stretch thing and it works, but it takes about 30mins for one mag, piece of shit!

spend 300$ on new mags and they dont even work properly...

Tapp · July 5th, 2008, 17:50

Great info thanks alot.

Lakonian · July 25th, 2008, 03:16

Hey just wondering what the noise level on your PTWs is.

I threw in a battery, and dry fired it 3-4 times (with an M90 cylinder), and then 3-4 times with the receiver open to make sure the sound was coming from the motor... It kinda sounded like.. "VVvvvveeeeep". Is this a regular sound? The motor is definitely audible....

Cheers

mcguyver · July 25th, 2008, 03:45

Make sure you don't have the bearing under the motor and back off the set screw and ensure it's Loc-Tite secured.

My 490 in my M16 is a bit noisy with the M150, but the M130 on down it's quite quiet.

Ronan · July 25th, 2008, 04:08

490's are dying all over the world. Talk to teckleberry or something like that on the SystemA forums. He found a permanent fix for dying and DEAD 490's. Only problem, shipping is $$$$ since he lives in the UK

swatt13 · July 25th, 2008, 04:17

k, quick refresh on the motors?

480 - black?
490 a - green?
490 b - ?

mcguyver · July 25th, 2008, 09:55

I ordered a comm lathe, and will try his procedure on a dead motor and see if we can do this in Canada.

Lakonian · July 25th, 2008, 12:42

Yeah, I think my 490 is dying.

EDIT: definitely a 490. Has "11t" markings on it.

Fuck, this is the first time I pulled the trigger on her, too.

EDIT2: Led was flashing when put into semi.... High pitched whine (still sounds like "Veeep") is still there.

jameskersten · July 25th, 2008, 13:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcguyver

I ordered a comm lathe, and will try his procedure on a dead motor and see if we can do this in Canada.

I have a dead 490a if you need a test motor. Its just sitting in the kit dead.

lee1hy · July 29th, 2008, 20:13

My experience PTW 08 MAX

FRIEND : burn out FET, crack M90 piston, (08 MAX CQBR)

My experience : shooting while bolt stopped sometime, easy to drop out magazine follower, easy to drop out battery cap crane stock, (08 M4A1)

I was right about PTW, Its just same AEG like a marui,

dont trust people what says

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June 5th, 2008, 22:59	#78
LeGROS Trader rating Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: back on 15 of April!!!... Viva Cuba!!	Jay and me are using Metal Tech ,25 and ,20 and have no problemo!! Never try BB Bastards... They did not give us a good price for my last order... Now I'm fidel to Mtech! And do have this 40$ charger who is working fine for me! Other subject Is there Hi Mag for PTW?? OR max is 120?? __________________ ALPHA unit, because there is no one else for that job!

June 5th, 2008, 23:46	#80
mcguyver Trader rating Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Northern Alberta	I've run at least 30,000 rounds through my CQB-R, mostly with M130 (about 20K) and M110 (about 10K) and the rubber was still OK when I checked it this spring. I guess it would stand to reason that with the heavier BB, more pressure is required which means the rubber will wear faster. But, considering a replacement cage/roller is about $12-$15, a once-per-year replacement won't break the bank. If you like the performance of the 0.28s vs the 0.25s, I would stick with the 0.28s and just replace that roller as part of an annual maintenance. And Metal Tech has not chopped, misfed or jammed on me once. KSC Perfect 0.25s were another story. If you have consistant jamming or misfeeding, check the barrel alignment. I've fixed that one before, and on the field yet during a game. __________________ Age verifier Northern Alberta Democracy is two wolves and a sheep discussing what's for dinner. Freedom is the wolves limping away while the sheep reloads. Never confuse freedom with democracy.

June 20th, 2008, 13:58	#81
Fox Hound Trader rating Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: North Bay / Stoney Creek	i just purchased brand new mags, the six pack. All but one seems to be feeding fine. I did the spring stretch thing and it works, but it takes about 30mins for one mag, piece of shit! spend 300$ on new mags and they dont even work properly... __________________

July 5th, 2008, 17:50	#82
Tapp Trader rating Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: North Vancouver, British Columbia	Great info thanks alot.

July 25th, 2008, 03:16	#83
Lakonian kos Trader rating Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Wherever.	Hey just wondering what the noise level on your PTWs is. I threw in a battery, and dry fired it 3-4 times (with an M90 cylinder), and then 3-4 times with the receiver open to make sure the sound was coming from the motor... It kinda sounded like.. "VVvvvveeeeep". Is this a regular sound? The motor is definitely audible.... Cheers

July 25th, 2008, 03:45	#84
mcguyver Trader rating Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Northern Alberta	Make sure you don't have the bearing under the motor and back off the set screw and ensure it's Loc-Tite secured. My 490 in my M16 is a bit noisy with the M150, but the M130 on down it's quite quiet. __________________ Age verifier Northern Alberta Democracy is two wolves and a sheep discussing what's for dinner. Freedom is the wolves limping away while the sheep reloads. Never confuse freedom with democracy.

July 25th, 2008, 09:55	#87
mcguyver Trader rating Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Northern Alberta	I ordered a comm lathe, and will try his procedure on a dead motor and see if we can do this in Canada. __________________ Age verifier Northern Alberta Democracy is two wolves and a sheep discussing what's for dinner. Freedom is the wolves limping away while the sheep reloads. Never confuse freedom with democracy.

July 25th, 2008, 12:42	#88
Lakonian kos Trader rating Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Wherever.	Yeah, I think my 490 is dying. EDIT: definitely a 490. Has "11t" markings on it. Fuck, this is the first time I pulled the trigger on her, too. EDIT2: Led was flashing when put into semi.... High pitched whine (still sounds like "Veeep") is still there. Last edited by Lakonian; July 25th, 2008 at 13:10..

July 29th, 2008, 20:13	#90
lee1hy Trader rating Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: KOREA	My experience PTW 08 MAX FRIEND : burn out FET, crack M90 piston, (08 MAX CQBR) My experience : shooting while bolt stopped sometime, easy to drop out magazine follower, easy to drop out battery cap crane stock, (08 M4A1) I was right about PTW, Its just same AEG like a marui, dont trust people what says

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