The real cost of Canadian 0.2g bbs

Cortexburn · September 30th, 2009, 00:57

For the most part it doesn't matter, bb's arrive in country in rice sacks and are dolled out in personalised packaging. Nothing "revolutionary" about the product or procedure. Anyone can contact spartan imports with a buisness licence and set up to be a wholesaler of excel bb's...and you can get them in bulk packs, and stuff them into ziplocks and call them whatever you want.

Cost is a factor of supply and demand.

mcguyver · September 30th, 2009, 01:05

It's funny how the Metal-Tech BBs seem to be getting a bad rap lately.

I bought over 2 cases of them back in early 2007, and those sat at the retailer since perhaps late-2005 or 2006 at the latest. They were the only BBs out of 2-3 others that would feed and perform flawlessly in the PTWs. Madbull (economy ones) chopped like crazy, KSC Perfect were terrible, Excel were terrible.

I did not try anything made after that, as I had over 100K rounds and still had about 25K left when I moved to the Madbull IPSC 0.30g.

This goes to show that even different batches, perhaps soruced differently or using a different process can have dramatic differences. If you find a BB you like, buy a case of them, if you buy a bag or 2 at a time, be prepared to deal with issues due to batch/tolerance differences on an ongoing basis.

Steven · September 30th, 2009, 01:11

How do you test wether or not you like the "batch" of BB's without buying one or two bags? Or are you referring to different brands

ujiro · September 30th, 2009, 01:15

He means, if you buy a bag or 2 and like it, then go and immediately buy a whole case of it.

Steven · September 30th, 2009, 01:17

Oh okay. That's actually a smart idea, thanks for the information.

mcguyver · September 30th, 2009, 01:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by ujiro

He means, if you buy a bag or 2 and like it, then go and immediately buy a whole case of it.

Precisely.

Scarecrow · September 30th, 2009, 11:45

In regards to consistency - BB Bastard brand BB products are often offered because they are a predictably performing product. Much like how Coke always tastes like Coke and Pepsi tastes like Pepsi, BB Bastard has its own custom manufacturing to specifications unique to our brand. We don't ricebag product and we don't have multiple suppliers, so our product is consistent and predictable, which is what an airsofter wants. Consistency of product is critical to both the novice player and the multiyear vets. AEGs and AEPs and PTWs are often tuned to precise tolerances and because the BB Bastard BB is the same from batch to batch and bag to bag, matching your airsoft gun to your ammunition when that ammunition is the same in weight, diameter, polish, density and balance, repeated optimal and consistent performance is assured.

So, with BB Bastard you don't have to worry about inconsistency between batches.

theshaneler · September 30th, 2009, 12:46

i dont think i have been as happy with any other ammo as much as i have been with bastards! metal tech BBs where meant for use in a stock barrel as they are slightly larger than 6mm. as soon as you try to use a MT with a tight bore, your going to get issues. MT are awesome for what they are designed to do, which is get better accuracy out of a wider barrel. BBbastards are just great all around! never had a jamming issue, and they are all very consistent. i have a brain sitting on my table atm, its about 60% of the bb, but i will not give it away, its far to cool. one brain out of 2 seasons worth of bbs = quality!

coach · September 30th, 2009, 13:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by theshaneler

i dont think i have been as happy with any other ammo as much as i have been with bastards! metal tech BBs where meant for use in a stock barrel as they are slightly larger than 6mm. as soon as you try to use a MT with a tight bore, your going to get issues. MT are awesome for what they are designed to do, which is get better accuracy out of a wider barrel. BBbastards are just great all around! never had a jamming issue, and they are all very consistent. i have a brain sitting on my table atm, its about 60% of the bb, but i will not give it away, its far to cool. one brain out of 2 seasons worth of bbs = quality!

I use MT's with madbull TB's without issue.

AngelusNex · September 30th, 2009, 13:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by theshaneler

i have a brain sitting on my table atm, its about 60% of the bb, but i will not give it away, its far to cool. one brain out of 2 seasons worth of bbs = quality!

You can get a free bag with that.

Danke · September 30th, 2009, 13:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by coachster

I use MT's with madbull TB's without issue.

Black Python in my daily driver and it eats nothing but MTs.

Anyone save some of the ones from Claybank that caused all the headaches? I'll test some and see if they feed.

gunscythe · September 30th, 2009, 15:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amos

Metal Tech may be the cheapest... But I had probably close to 40 complaints of people having ridiculous jamming issues. I can't blame ALL of those on metal tech BB's due to the sandy environment... But after that experience.. Metal Tech BB's are a no-go for me.

It's too bad that the people @ Metal Tech have such great customer service and are very polite and easy to talk to

they saved the day for me... But their product isn't very good

I just wanted to defend them....just so people can hear both sides of people's experience.

I've used almost exclusively metal tech BB's, and have gone through maybe 50,000 to 100,000. I have had one jam in this time, which may or may not have been metaltech's fault. (probably was a deformed BB)

I love Metal Tech BBs.

ujiro · September 30th, 2009, 15:54

Yeah I've found the opinions on MT BBs to be pretty polarized.

When they work, they work like a dream and people love them.
When they don't, they generally don't work at all, and just get crazy jamming issues.

So, I might give them a try, just to see, because if I luck out and they work well on mine, then there you go.

However, I do find that for myself, BB Bastards have been the most consistent BBs. They are always the exact same and the quality is outstanding. I have no personal experience with MT so I can't comment.

Skladfin · September 30th, 2009, 16:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by theshaneler

i dont think i have been as happy with any other ammo as much as i have been with bastards! metal tech BBs where meant for use in a stock barrel as they are slightly larger than 6mm. as soon as you try to use a MT with a tight bore, your going to get issues. MT are awesome for what they are designed to do, which is get better accuracy out of a wider barrel. BBbastards are just great all around! never had a jamming issue, and they are all very consistent. i have a brain sitting on my table atm, its about 60% of the bb, but i will not give it away, its far to cool. one brain out of 2 seasons worth of bbs = quality!

used MT in 6.01 PDIs before, no issues.

no issues with prom 6.03 or madbull6.03 either. Tightbore does not affect jamming.

Ronan · September 30th, 2009, 16:39

I used Metal Tech as the first bb's for my PTW. Worked perfectly for the 3 bags. Bought 2 more bags, it was a nightmare.

Switch to BB Bastards, never had a single problem.

Now using BB Bastards on my GBBR, no problems.

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September 30th, 2009, 00:57	#61
Cortexburn Miserable Bastard Trader rating Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Red Deer, Alberta	For the most part it doesn't matter, bb's arrive in country in rice sacks and are dolled out in personalised packaging. Nothing "revolutionary" about the product or procedure. Anyone can contact spartan imports with a buisness licence and set up to be a wholesaler of excel bb's...and you can get them in bulk packs, and stuff them into ziplocks and call them whatever you want. Cost is a factor of supply and demand. __________________ My Buy/Sell Rating. “We cannot defend freedom abroad by deserting it at home.” Thomas Jefferson I hate Ghillie suits. Socialism SUCKS www.unisevil.com

September 30th, 2009, 01:05	#62
mcguyver Trader rating Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Northern Alberta	It's funny how the Metal-Tech BBs seem to be getting a bad rap lately. I bought over 2 cases of them back in early 2007, and those sat at the retailer since perhaps late-2005 or 2006 at the latest. They were the only BBs out of 2-3 others that would feed and perform flawlessly in the PTWs. Madbull (economy ones) chopped like crazy, KSC Perfect were terrible, Excel were terrible. I did not try anything made after that, as I had over 100K rounds and still had about 25K left when I moved to the Madbull IPSC 0.30g. This goes to show that even different batches, perhaps soruced differently or using a different process can have dramatic differences. If you find a BB you like, buy a case of them, if you buy a bag or 2 at a time, be prepared to deal with issues due to batch/tolerance differences on an ongoing basis. __________________ Age verifier Northern Alberta Democracy is two wolves and a sheep discussing what's for dinner. Freedom is the wolves limping away while the sheep reloads. Never confuse freedom with democracy.

September 30th, 2009, 01:15	#64
ujiro Trader rating Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Burlington, ON	He means, if you buy a bag or 2 and like it, then go and immediately buy a whole case of it. __________________ I love freedom and consequently America

September 30th, 2009, 01:11	#63
Steven Trader rating Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Langley, B.C	How do you test wether or not you like the "batch" of BB's without buying one or two bags? Or are you referring to different brands

September 30th, 2009, 01:17	#65
Steven Trader rating Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Langley, B.C	Oh okay. That's actually a smart idea, thanks for the information.

September 30th, 2009, 11:45	#67
Scarecrow A Total Bastard Trader rating Join Date: May 2003 Location: Tottenham	In regards to consistency - BB Bastard brand BB products are often offered because they are a predictably performing product. Much like how Coke always tastes like Coke and Pepsi tastes like Pepsi, BB Bastard has its own custom manufacturing to specifications unique to our brand. We don't ricebag product and we don't have multiple suppliers, so our product is consistent and predictable, which is what an airsofter wants. Consistency of product is critical to both the novice player and the multiyear vets. AEGs and AEPs and PTWs are often tuned to precise tolerances and because the BB Bastard BB is the same from batch to batch and bag to bag, matching your airsoft gun to your ammunition when that ammunition is the same in weight, diameter, polish, density and balance, repeated optimal and consistent performance is assured. So, with BB Bastard you don't have to worry about inconsistency between batches. __________________ LIKE us on Facebook!!

September 30th, 2009, 15:54	#73
ujiro Trader rating Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Burlington, ON	Yeah I've found the opinions on MT BBs to be pretty polarized. When they work, they work like a dream and people love them. When they don't, they generally don't work at all, and just get crazy jamming issues. So, I might give them a try, just to see, because if I luck out and they work well on mine, then there you go. However, I do find that for myself, BB Bastards have been the most consistent BBs. They are always the exact same and the quality is outstanding. I have no personal experience with MT so I can't comment. __________________ I love freedom and consequently America

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