What would you have between normal AEG vs PTW when you got money??

[Wrath144]

Mach1's prices are extremely inflated, not to mention a SuperMAX is not worth the extra money. Here's the breakdown I made for myself
PTW - $1580 new (in country)
6x Systema mags - $225 (Hong Kong)
2x Lipo battery, lipo charger and alarm - $70 (Hong Kong)
Extra PTW spring - $25 (in country)
Add tax and shipping where applicable.
Thats enough to get you going, reliably and effectively with a PTW.
So, kyle milliken, before you start typing in caps do some more research.

I recognize PTW's aren't for everyone. But for serious players who are M4 users such as myself, buying a full metal high end AEG (G&P, $650+) and then putting $500 in upgrade parts in it, having to pay for labour, and dicking around making everything perfect, its worth checking out a PTW. Its the super-AEG performance, with a bit of added realism (bolt release) and much less dicking around.

[kyle milliken]

Originally Posted by Wrath144

Mach1's prices are extremely inflated, not to mention a SuperMAX is not worth the extra money. Here's the breakdown I made for myself
PTW - $1580 new (in country)
6x Systema mags - $225 (Hong Kong)
2x Lipo battery, lipo charger and alarm - $70 (Hong Kong)
Extra PTW spring - $25 (in country)
Add tax and shipping where applicable.
Thats enough to get you going, reliably and effectively with a PTW.
So, kyle milliken, before you start typing in caps do some more research.

I recognize PTW's aren't for everyone. But for serious players who are M4 users such as myself, buying a full metal high end AEG (G&P, $650+) and then putting $500 in upgrade parts in it, having to pay for labour, and dicking around making everything perfect, its worth checking out a PTW. Its the super-AEG performance, with a bit of added realism (bolt release) and much less dicking around.

i know about mach1's prices but like i said i'm a student and cant order from anywhere else, it has to be mach1 because i can drive to them and get all the stuff i need.

[Wrath144]

I'm not sure where the student argument is going, I'm a student too, I don't see how that could prevent you from shopping around.

[kyle milliken]

what you mean that not having a high enough paying job and or credit card isn't a good enough argument?

[Wrath144]

Ugh... never mind.

[Danke]

I heard about a charity that give PTWs to struggling students. No joke.

[GSK88]

Originally Posted by kyle milliken

what you mean that not having a high enough paying job and or credit card isn't a good enough argument?

The original question was if you had the money right now, what would you rather have. An upgraded AEG or a PTW. Not "I can't afford it so this is what I'd buy"

Besides, I work at Sobeys part time and I still manage to buy a whackload of shit I don't need/take the gf out/pay bills.

*Edit - I would go with a PTW simply for the ability to swap uppers/cylinders on the fly.

[kyle milliken]

even if i did have to money i wouldn't really buy it because, i LOVE to tinker on my gearboxes and upgrade them i find it relaxing and thrilling at the same time.

[Wrath144]

Thats why you work on other people's guns LOL.
But really, I'm the same way. I bought a PTW, but I need somehting to fuck with for fun, so I bought some broken piece of junk JG SVD for $30 from one of my friends to play with.

[ThunderCactus]

Originally Posted by kyle milliken

even if i did have to money i wouldn't really buy it because, i LOVE to tinker on my gearboxes and upgrade them i find it relaxing and thrilling at the same time.

Yeah well I've been doing it for 5 goddamn years non-stop, I'm sick of that crap and I want a gun I don't have to dick with every other weekend.
Having a high end AEG is fine if your comfortable and good at working on them, there are some REALLY good AEG's out there.

But if you don't wanna tear down the gun every month or whatever, and you still want a high performance machine, and you've got the money to get it, then buy a PTW.

Given the money (Which I have), and given that I have tons of experience with average, demon, miracle, and my own AEG's (and I've built some pretty amazing AEG's), I'm still buying a PTW.
Will I regret the decision later in the season? I'll keep you guys posted, but I really don't think so.

/thread damnit

[damage]

I own both platform AEG and PTW. Hard for me to pick which one I prefer. My M4 Aeg with 310mm inner shoots a PTW like accuracy, high ROF and very low maintenance. Why? I bought all high end guts, tuned it that way I like it to perform and leave it until something goes wrong or it needs better aftermarket parts. Only maintenance I do is clean the barrel every game. My PTW which I had it since 2008 is also low maintenance. It shoots accurate, far and straight. RS parts, motor and hop mod. Its my general purpose gun. Although the electronic parts are tefloned and its "OK" for a wet/rainy gameday still I object to use it in such weather. Maintenance is the same as my AEG, clean the barrel after use. Now for BASR......I'll go to the other thread PTW vs. bolt action...

[BIGMEDCIN]

Originally Posted by ryan1796

I've been playing airsoft about 5 years for now and I've tried many different types of brand and gun. But I still can't decide what should I keep. I have both AEG and PTW.

I just want to ask you guys what would you rather have between AEG vs PTW when you got enough money to upgrade/modify your gun? Also, the reason why.

*This thread is not about which is better and worse, it's about what would you have when you got money and why.*

Whew some heated debate...and hmmm 90 yards accuracy out of an airsoft gun!! consistent groupings at 200feet!! wow? some pretty tall ones here also ;-)

Anyway the question: if money was not a factor which one? well I might not be the best one to give an opinion since I have 14 AEGs sitting in my locker, all kinds of platforms, different brands, some I have built from scratch! obviously I like variety and since I do gun doctoring I love the satisfaction of the build and tuning!
Where I live and play, I have been up against PTWs for years, there are plenty around here, I see guys playing around adjusting and repairing these PTWs too(hop ups and motor) , now in fairness I see a few that perform very well, but 400fps is 400fps no matter how many times you say it, I can pull anyone of my 400fps AEgs out of my locker and it will shoot 400fps all day long, with good name brand matching up grade parts, mosfet trigger, proper wiring and motor on a 11.1 lipo battery, not only is the air seal consistent, the trigger response is very ample, oh yes they will break from time to time, but even 1 million dollar formula 1 race car engines blow up! remember also most PTW shooters shoot semi "most of the time" (low cap mags) AEGs shooting mostly a diet of semi tend to be much more reliable also, rather than a run and gun 400 round hi-cap 400fps shooting full auto all day.

I think in the end only experience of both worlds will be your answer, some guys can play with one gun for years and be happy, some of us change them like the weather, right now I am playing with a Masada that after $120 in parts and about 2hrs of tuning, I would put up against any AEG or PTW shooting same fps, total cost with mags and battery..less than half of a PTW set up!!

"If money is no object" and you can live with one gun, sure buy a PTW, one way or an other, either out of the box of after a couple visits to a gun doc, it will shoot as good or better than most AEGs! bottom line will be when you put the sights on and pull the trigger of any gun you are shooting.


cheers

[Karma_]

Here's a fact.

Those who talk hate on PTW's don't know about PTW's. The only experience they have with them is second hand information. I know of some people who have problems with them but they are inept and would have problems with anything and are thankfully rare.

There is so much incorrect information on here thrown out like it's fact. Someone knows a guy who had a problem with his PTW so all PTW's have problems. People say they don't hold up in rain but their AEG does. Incorrect. I've played in rain, many friends of mine have played in rain and they are still going strong. So...even though the odd person has an issue, doesn't mean that they are like that across the board. Unless you have first hand experience with them, and more than just one game, don't go throwing out comments like they're gospel. You come off very stupid.

It seems to be known that there are a lot of PTW's in Alberta. I don't think it's because there's a lot of money. I think it's because the knowledge base here is high. We have one of the most well known PTW guru's, Macguyver, as well as some other highly experienced players. People have seen the performance, seen the reliability and have sold their other guns to get one.

As for cost. If you don't have the money to buy one, that isn't a good enough reason to think they're worthless. Another comment that makes you look stupid. I've been running my PTW for over 3 years. I only have the one gun. I play quite regularly and never have a back up. Once my gun went down, the motor died. Got it fixed two years ago, haven't had a problem since. That has been the ONLY additional cost to keep my gun running. I also got the hop up mod done. So tell me, how is that not worth it? 3+ years and solid reliability plus its accurate as hell. Don't believe me? I don't really care as it means we've never played together so I'll most likely never see you.

The whole argument about having different varieties of guns is irrelevant. Systema only makes two kinds, M4 base and MP5 (which is still being made) so that's all there is for comparing. If you don't like those platforms, then shut up. There's no point is bringing up that argument. There's currently nothing that can be done.

I'm calling "Mr. I think I'm Awesome Fox" out here as you made a comment about PTW's not having recoil. This is so incredibly moronic as this is an airsoft forum. The majority of airsoft guns don't have recoil!!! You are proving every time you post how far your head is up your ass.


This was a long rant but seriously, unless you have actual first hand experience be careful what you say as fact and opinion. You can have all the opinions you want but don't start spewing out false and incorrect information.

At the end of the day, play with what you love. Play how you want to play. No one has to convince others of why they should play with what and how they should do it.

Ahhhhh......

[Blackthorne]

PTW FTW.

Expensive? - Save
Wet issues? - waterproof
Expensive Mags? - Repairable, don't leak new out of the box (fuck you WE) and see line 1

Fast FPS changes with cylinders, swapping uppers to go CQB, and I can smack it around like a real AR due to build quality.

Hands down PTW

[THe_Silencer]

Originally Posted by mcguyver

You don't have to do a thing to a PTW except basic maintenance.

I don't have anything against PTWs but I feel that the above statement is less than accurate. For an aeg that costs $1000+ I find it kinda ridiculous that the hop up will need to be modded for the gun to operate at its full potential. You can argue that this is totally optional but it does not seem like an option when it is advocated by all serious PTW users.