Some people have been asking what AI is up to...

MadMax · August 27th, 2007, 01:11

It's really aimed at the CQC market as the grass penetration problems limit outdoor uses. Still, it'd work well clearing trenches or outdoor structures.

There are some features which are aimed to improve outdoor performance which will be unveiled in a couple weeks.

Lakonian · August 27th, 2007, 01:18

It'd be nice if it you could field strip it, and clean it in the unlikely (or likely) event it gets mud, or other gunk in it.

Just a thought...

Pvt. Ivan · August 27th, 2007, 01:18

I'm interested... Keep us posted.

Tankdude · September 10th, 2007, 13:56

updates?

Brian McIlmoyle · September 10th, 2007, 14:05

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Originally Posted by Tankdude

updates?

What.... it was 2 weeks ago... product development takes months not days...granted it is a damn cool toy.. and I can't wait either!!

MadMax · September 10th, 2007, 18:06

Actually, I'm planning to do a public demo very soon. Details to follow.

Fidget11 · September 10th, 2007, 18:38

i would be in for a preorder of 3 or so for sure. i know after using other AI products i have alot of faith that it will be top quality and well worth the cost.

Regan.S · September 10th, 2007, 18:51

What happens If you throw your gernade and cannot recover the pieces too it?

SovietHippie · September 10th, 2007, 18:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by Regan.S

What happens If you throw your gernade and cannot recover the pieces too it?

Were you not listening? It doesn't have loose pieces to fly off, the only loose piece you may end up loosing is the pull pin. On another note I CANNOT wait to see these in action. Goodluck.

Moderate · September 10th, 2007, 19:11

Wow. wow. wow. wow. wow.
Good luck with your product!

Brian McIlmoyle · September 10th, 2007, 20:18

MADMAX has just informed me that pre-preduction prototypes of Airsoft Innovations soon to be released BB Frag grenade will be showcased at TTAC3 this Friday Sept 14 at our 2nd year milestone free event.
This is the first public demonstration of this new product.

Although the production run is some time away the pre-production prototypes (100% operational and ready to be tossed ) will illustrate clearly the effectivness and simplicity of operation of AI's entry into the re-useable grenade market.

Please be advised that no close up photography of these grenades will be allowed for confidentiality reasons.

But you can see them in person... and even get to try one out.

You've heard the rumors.... now you can Check it out for yourself.. Come to TTAC3 this Friday and witness the public launch of this very important product.

( no grenades will be available for sale, these are pre-production prototypes, Production grenades will be hitting the market in the not to distant future

Maelstrom · September 13th, 2007, 03:05

not too good for getting around grass but heck i'd use em outdoors here in BC. Nothing like a good toss into the fort or the crack shack that we got out here where there's no grass to get in the way

put me down for a pre-order and a buncha spare pins while i'm at it! time to shop for grenade pouches now

MadMax · September 13th, 2007, 03:26

Well, I included a short timer option that is very easy to set. It's possible to fuse my grenades for a 1.5s delay to make consistent airbursts. You can set the timing on the field (to 1.5s but not back to 3s). Airbursts don't have the problems of grass attenuation, but you HAVE to throw from a position with cover. It's very easy to suicide oneself with an airbursting grenade as the pellet range is quite far. Airburst grenades are really defensive grenades.

Airburst timing is not feasible with any other currently available airsoft grenade. Their timers are too inconsistent (+/- 3s at best!) to risk cooking off time or setting for a short average initiation time.

I designed my pins to be replacable with wire from typical coat hangers. I picked the diameter because i noticed a lot of lost pins in user testing. The music wire pins I'll supply will be more durable (hanger wire is soft), but you can still field your nades if you're waiting for spare pins in the mail. The only other part which broke in extensive testing was easily fixed with a wad of kleenex. My grenade is very robust. Even if you manage to bust it in a way that arose in user testing, you can limp it along with under a minute of improvisation.

Styrak · September 13th, 2007, 03:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by MadMax

Well, I included a short timer option that is very easy to set. It's possible to fuse my grenades for a 1.5s delay to make consistent airbursts.
...
I designed my pins to be replacable with wire from typical coat hangers. I picked the diameter because i noticed a lot of lost pins in user testing.
...
The only other part which broke in extensive testing was easily fixed with a wad of kleenex. My grenade is very robust. Even if you manage to bust it in a way that arose in user testing, you can limp it along with under a minute of improvisation.

That's very ingenious of you, and I'm sure a lot of people will appreciate your ingenuity!

Maelstrom · September 13th, 2007, 14:14

not having seen the product, there is one thing I want to ask or suggest as an option. Is there a small hole or loop somewhere to tie some flag tape to where it doesn't really get in the way of operation? This would be kind of helpful to anyone who uses it outdoors so they can find where it landed easier if the grenade is a neutral color that doesnt stand out much, or to put something to mark your grenade from everyone elses just to ID it?

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August 27th, 2007, 01:11	#46
MadMax Delierious Designer of Dastardly Detonations Trader rating Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: in the dark recesses of some metal chip filled machine shop	It's really aimed at the CQC market as the grass penetration problems limit outdoor uses. Still, it'd work well clearing trenches or outdoor structures. There are some features which are aimed to improve outdoor performance which will be unveiled in a couple weeks. __________________ Want nearly free GBB gas?

August 27th, 2007, 01:18	#48
Pvt. Ivan Trader rating Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Toronto	I'm interested... Keep us posted. __________________ If I had a face like you, I'd join the British Army.

September 10th, 2007, 18:06	#51
MadMax Delierious Designer of Dastardly Detonations Trader rating Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: in the dark recesses of some metal chip filled machine shop	Actually, I'm planning to do a public demo very soon. Details to follow. __________________ Want nearly free GBB gas?

August 27th, 2007, 01:18	#47
Lakonian kos Trader rating Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Wherever.	It'd be nice if it you could field strip it, and clean it in the unlikely (or likely) event it gets mud, or other gunk in it. Just a thought...

September 10th, 2007, 13:56	#49
Tankdude Trader rating Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: East Coast, New Brunswick	updates?

September 10th, 2007, 18:38	#52
Fidget11 Trader rating Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Edmonton, Alberta.	i would be in for a preorder of 3 or so for sure. i know after using other AI products i have alot of faith that it will be top quality and well worth the cost. __________________ Stop Sulking About It! - Prioritize & Organize! - Canadian Airsoft Is Not A Crime! Primary: G36K Secondary: FMU SIG P226

September 10th, 2007, 18:51	#53
Regan.S Trader rating Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Saskatchewan, I'm Lovin' It	What happens If you throw your gernade and cannot recover the pieces too it?

September 10th, 2007, 19:11	#55
Moderate Trader rating Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Under a Bridge	Wow. wow. wow. wow. wow. Good luck with your product!

September 10th, 2007, 20:18	#56
Brian McIlmoyle 8=======D Trader rating Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Toronto	AI Grenade Public Premier at TTAC3 Friday Sept 14. MADMAX has just informed me that pre-preduction prototypes of Airsoft Innovations soon to be released BB Frag grenade will be showcased at TTAC3 this Friday Sept 14 at our 2nd year milestone free event. This is the first public demonstration of this new product. Although the production run is some time away the pre-production prototypes (100% operational and ready to be tossed ) will illustrate clearly the effectivness and simplicity of operation of AI's entry into the re-useable grenade market. Please be advised that no close up photography of these grenades will be allowed for confidentiality reasons. But you can see them in person... and even get to try one out. You've heard the rumors.... now you can Check it out for yourself.. Come to TTAC3 this Friday and witness the public launch of this very important product. ( no grenades will be available for sale, these are pre-production prototypes, Production grenades will be hitting the market in the not to distant future __________________ Brian McIlmoyle TTAC3 Director CAPS Range Officer Toronto Downtown Age Verifier OPERATION WOODSMAN If the tongue could cut as the sword does, the dead would be infinite

September 13th, 2007, 03:05	#57
Maelstrom Trader rating Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Vancity	not too good for getting around grass but heck i'd use em outdoors here in BC. Nothing like a good toss into the fort or the crack shack that we got out here where there's no grass to get in the way put me down for a pre-order and a buncha spare pins while i'm at it! time to shop for grenade pouches now

September 13th, 2007, 03:26	#58
MadMax Delierious Designer of Dastardly Detonations Trader rating Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: in the dark recesses of some metal chip filled machine shop	Well, I included a short timer option that is very easy to set. It's possible to fuse my grenades for a 1.5s delay to make consistent airbursts. You can set the timing on the field (to 1.5s but not back to 3s). Airbursts don't have the problems of grass attenuation, but you HAVE to throw from a position with cover. It's very easy to suicide oneself with an airbursting grenade as the pellet range is quite far. Airburst grenades are really defensive grenades. Airburst timing is not feasible with any other currently available airsoft grenade. Their timers are too inconsistent (+/- 3s at best!) to risk cooking off time or setting for a short average initiation time. I designed my pins to be replacable with wire from typical coat hangers. I picked the diameter because i noticed a lot of lost pins in user testing. The music wire pins I'll supply will be more durable (hanger wire is soft), but you can still field your nades if you're waiting for spare pins in the mail. The only other part which broke in extensive testing was easily fixed with a wad of kleenex. My grenade is very robust. Even if you manage to bust it in a way that arose in user testing, you can limp it along with under a minute of improvisation. __________________ Want nearly free GBB gas? Last edited by MadMax; September 13th, 2007 at 03:30..

September 13th, 2007, 14:14	#60
Maelstrom Trader rating Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Vancity	not having seen the product, there is one thing I want to ask or suggest as an option. Is there a small hole or loop somewhere to tie some flag tape to where it doesn't really get in the way of operation? This would be kind of helpful to anyone who uses it outdoors so they can find where it landed easier if the grenade is a neutral color that doesnt stand out much, or to put something to mark your grenade from everyone elses just to ID it?

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