ASCA - Sale of final AEG stock

[Amazing KG3]

+1 for pal.

[Daes]

+1 for PAL also. Especially if it means overseas access for metal bodies, documentation pending....

-Daes

[kalnaren]

Originally Posted by Rumpel Felt

Now with a PAL option avaliable....would that enable international orders....or do they not have anything in common?

I'll read more....

I would imagine importing would still be out of the question, but then again I don't know too much about it.

[thephenom]

I think these are 2 complete different articles we are tackling here.

1. Legality of importing (airsoft and restricted items)
2. Legality of owning airsoft (and obvious to use in designated area)

The more important of the two we perceive today is obviously #2 to preserve our game. The importing issue can be dealt with later.

As long as I can still own my airsoft and use them at games, I'll be happy. And as long as the restricted number of dealer can still import, I'm cool with that. If we can successfully lobby airsoft with PAL, then I'm all for it.

[Aaidin]

Yup, I'm all for it with a PAL too. Unfourtunately I don't have one yet and no experience with real firearms or the laws surrounding them. Therefore I can't do anything about. But anyone who goes to bat on this has my support, as well as most everyone else's here it looks like.

[Janus]

The course for a PAL involves pretty much all the common sense things we try to teach people when they first get into airsoft. I can't think of a reason why it wouldn't be a good idea.

[szetor]

+1 for PAL

-40 for orange tips.

[Nervikaire]

Unfortunately, nothing will be *officially* done on this matter before federal elections (from our side anyways)... All I can say is that there is quite a number of mp's that are aware of airsoft and positive about it if correctly controlled.

As surprising as this may sound, the ones i'm thinking about right now are Bloc's mp's, because someone in airsoft close to the Bloc did some PR last summer/fall and invited some mp's to see and touch airsoft.

As I said, most of them were positive about it and I ''think'' the guy also talked about it to M. Duceppe. This means that even within the opposition, ppl are friendly to our cause. The biggest changes will be made via PR with mp's and by official letters and such.

For those interested, Tim Wyborn sent me most of the documentation he and the ABA used to save airsoft in England. (Situation is not the same over here, but it could get very similar in the future, so...)

[Naerah]

do you realize its the best time to ask something to the govt. ? election time is the politician christmas time. they give almost without checking(not saying that they whould not do) just to get more vote.. or i am currently stuopid enough and its prov. election.... anyway im just pointing out that election time are always a good moment to request something from the actual govt.

[Nervikaire]

Actually... No. Not when the issue is negative to the public's eye. Opposition groups will use that to show how ''evil'' the actual governement is, and get some more votes from soccer moms. The best time to bring this issue at an official level will be after the election of a majoritary (sp?) conservative governement. Even if it's minoritary (sp?), it would be a better time than pre-election time, because opppostion won't have much to gain from being against our hobby/sport.

[takatorikku]

i'm totally fine with a PAL purchasing system. it regulates the sale of airsoft guns to the point where

A: only people 18+ can buy airsoft and if not,
B: i highly doubt some kid's parent with a PAL will buy them one because i'm hoping that if the parents think it's controlled under a PAL, then it must be some pretty serious stuff
C: most airsoft players already have PALs (or at least I'm hoping) so it's only a minor inconvenience to the others who don't have one to get it.

[arman]

ive never herd of PAL but im all for it!! i may get flamed but i dont care i just want to play and buy airsoft!

[Manaconda]

I could be wrong but... Isn't there a huge process to the PAL system? Like isn't there something in it that involves some one going through some kind of pshyc analisis through the answers to the questions?

My point is Pall ain't gonna make it easier. Anyhow lets wait to see what Hojo has to say. I don't think this was the thread for all of this talk.

[BBS]

correct me if i'm wrong but you have to go through stages, tests, courses, long time/wait to obtain a PAL... but of course thats for owning a real firearm.

lets hope theres a "PAL airsoft version" so the process of obtaining it would be different (safety course, tests, etc) than that of a PAL for firearms. i hope we can order airsoft guns from overseas after getting an "airsoft PAL".

[Cortexburn]

It would be a regular PAL...like for a firearm. The whole point is to have it under the firearms PAL. Weed out the tards' early and make sure only those responsible ( for the most part....) have airsoft.

However, I'm pretty sure you would only need a non-restricted PAL which is roughly $100 and 8 hours, you write your test...pass...paperwork is sent in and 1-2 months later you have your PAL in the mail. It's not that hard.....unless you have a criminal record.....

It would be a HUGE step forward in a good way for once. ( for airsoft )