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Old September 20th, 2006, 22:33   #46
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Pot metal doesn't always stand up, even to wood or a small rock. also you soo don't want dirt or excess moisture geting into the mags.

Also usually when I switch guns I'll be switching hands in the process (ie going from right to left handed shooting) and with the dead gun going back into it's empty holster... accuracy can be hell in that moment though cause you're concentrating on doing two different things.
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Old September 20th, 2006, 22:56   #47
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Plastic bumpers on WA doublestacks will usually shatter if dropped on something even semi-hard. I baby my mags almost as much as the guns themselves.
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Old September 21st, 2006, 01:36   #48
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Just throwing this out there.... but... it COULD be possible to have 4 holsters (if you are into the whole dueling guns thing and extra weight is not an issue) 2 drop leg holsters and 2 hip holsters... use the guns in the drop leg holsters first and then drop them back in when the mags are spent... on your way up... just grab the hip holsters (assuming they are not held in by crazy straps). usually holsters have the velcro crap on them so they should hold the gun in place for the time being before you have a chance to better safty them into the holster. Now im sure with a little bit of practise and imagination... one can pull this off... i think...
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Old September 21st, 2006, 01:47   #49
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Just throwing this out there.... but... it COULD be possible to have 4 holsters (if you are into the whole dueling guns thing and extra weight is not an issue) 2 drop leg holsters and 2 hip holsters... use the guns in the drop leg holsters first and then drop them back in when the mags are spent... on your way up... just grab the hip holsters (assuming they are not held in by crazy straps). usually holsters have the velcro crap on them so they should hold the gun in place for the time being before you have a chance to better safty them into the holster. Now im sure with a little bit of practise and imagination... one can pull this off... i think...
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Old September 21st, 2006, 02:27   #50
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haha, 8 if you go with the castor troy set on arnies + those (2 hip, 2 drop leg, 2 shoulder, 2 back)
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Old September 21st, 2006, 08:10   #51
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Just throwing this out there.... but... it COULD be possible to have 4 holsters (if you are into the whole dueling guns thing and extra weight is not an issue) 2 drop leg holsters and 2 hip holsters... use the guns in the drop leg holsters first and then drop them back in when the mags are spent... on your way up... just grab the hip holsters (assuming they are not held in by crazy straps). usually holsters have the velcro crap on them so they should hold the gun in place for the time being before you have a chance to better safty them into the holster. Now im sure with a little bit of practise and imagination... one can pull this off... i think...
Sure it could, let's do the math.

About $350/gun; $1400
Let's say $50 per holster; add $200.

$1600 to do this. I'd rather have one hell of an AEG instead.
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Old September 21st, 2006, 17:48   #52
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We got to drop the whole multiple gun thing, it just isn't practical, you can basically reload your single pistol in the time you get your new ones out. And if your face to face with an enemy and your out of ammo, RUN and get to cover where you can reload safely then shoot back.

If this was real war you could just throw shit at him. And that video was a pretty good indication on how to reload as fast as possible, build yourself some magazine holster thing that holds the mag out at your front and you can grab it real quick to reload.

All that money spent on holsters and guns just to save what? 1 to 2 seconds?

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Oh and about the rubber things shattering on hard contact, well I didn't know they do that because of my lack of experience so that basically destroys my idea.
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Old September 21st, 2006, 20:23   #53
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Dont worry. The problem here is that few people really know about real guns, even less about real handguns.
Then what works for real guns very often makes zero sense for airsoft. A great example are what to do with mags.
In real handgun IPSC competition (for example), mags wind up in the dirt or whatever. They are (relatively) cheap and replaceable. You can find mags for $5 to $10 and they are just plain metal.
In airsoft, GBB mags cost a crapload more, and they dont react really well to that kind of abuse.

What works the same for both 'games' is that magazine reloads are FAR faster than swapping guns. Yes, there are some guns (real and airsoft) that are exceptions, but in general, what I just said is pretty much the normal procedure.

That procedure is based on years of experience from far better shooters than I'll ever be, and it works.
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Old September 21st, 2006, 21:32   #54
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acutally i find the second gun a big help, and every body does eventually reload the gun
some of us (like me) just prefer to whip out the second gun and launch a unholy strom of un aimed shot across the clearing. (although im a sniper and carrying a marushin constrictor and a blackhawk revolvers are very cumbersome) id rather not have to take the time to reload dual revolvers.
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Old September 21st, 2006, 21:33   #55
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the best method, is if your race shooting, keep an open mag pouch, and drop the emptys in the dirt, if its tactical, just learn to rip, pull, and plug while your dropping your emptys. keep it simple, that should apply to everything.
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Old September 22nd, 2006, 02:13   #56
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Yeah, you can always practice that motion when your waiting for something to load on your comp or waiting for a pizza, whip out your gun, go in the basement and practice reloading mags. Eventually youl get muscle memory and be able to do it faster.

I learned to type really fast on my keyboard, and now I seem to be very good with my hands, so now im naturally able to play around with my flat tipped knive (used for cutting ropes and stuff while I sail, not for stabbing people). Also, the first time I was doing the Spec Ops class in America's Army, I saw this soldier in the corner flipping his pencil in between his fingers really fast, I said "impossible", so I kept trying to do it til now, I can actually do it.

Practice makes perfect.
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Old September 22nd, 2006, 03:20   #57
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after actually sitting here reading through this post t downed on me that a lot of you watch too many movies or read books and take those "methods" as gospel.

First off, if you had a long gun why would you want to let it hang and transition to your secondary ( i will not even get into multiple pistols here)...you should be bale to duck into cover reload and carry on with the fight...and IF you were doing a proper drill with a partner it wouldn't be an issue as he would know you were reloading and be providing cover.

if you had to transition because your primary failed then your secondary would be pretty much used to provide cover in order to move yourself to a spot where you could either fix your primary or get the heck out of dodge....

take this with a grain of salt as real steel differs alot from airsoft...FTF/stopages with a real firearm can be fixed pretty much easily....AEGs and GBBs..not so much.

Grey and Viking are 100% bang on with their comments.....
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Old September 22nd, 2006, 03:56   #58
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I recall reading an article somewhere that the stresses of a "combat" situation make it near impossible to accurately count the number of shots left in a magazine
so if you've been squeezing the trigger, its a good idea to pop in a new mag before moving on to a new room
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Old September 22nd, 2006, 08:01   #59
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I recall reading an article somewhere that the stresses of a "combat" situation make it near impossible to accurately count the number of shots left in a magazine
so if you've been squeezing the trigger, its a good idea to pop in a new mag before moving on to a new room
Difficult, not impossible, and there are techniques to compensate for that.
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Old September 22nd, 2006, 11:14   #60
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Shin, your right, you are supposed to reload after every battle before moving forward. That is if you have the ammo of course.

I guess since theres no holes on the back of an EAG's Mag you can't see how much bb's you have left, so it would be better to reload if you think you used alot of ammo in that mag.
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