Magpul PTS Masada ACR review

[Curo]

Nevermind fixed it, tappet plate was just too tight. I guess I thought 'Oh Noes my new super expensive masada just became a paper weight' and panicked. lol.

[Eeyore]

Originally Posted by MaciekA

To clarify, is the hop-up the only proprietary part that can't be replaced by something TM compatible?

Yes.

[Scouser]

Originally Posted by Eeyore

I just received my PTS today. So a quick comparison between the A&K and PTS versions.

The PTS version is lighter than the A&K and has a thinner pistol grip. Also the charging handle is in a more forward position. I personally think the A&K version has nicer trades as well as a nicer finish. Internally there is no comparison, the PTS blows the A&K away. But as the A&K has a 100% TM compatible gearbox and inner barrel it can easily be made a true competitor. The A&K's only true weak point is its proprietary hop up unit which is made of brittle clear plastic. And if it breaks you are pretty well fucked. A&K released a metal nozzle and hop up parts but you still need to use some of the stock parts and the machining is very poor making the metal hop up useless.

a&k you can pick up a metal hop up chamber and air nozzle on ebay, there is a store there that custom makes them

on my team we have 4 of the A&K masadas and one pts one now. The a&k are blowing the pts one away mainly because we put proper upgrades in them right away. The gears stripped on the pts one already, but luckily our guy was able to get it fixed.

I dunno, just seemed a better idea to get the A&K ones and put the money saved into upgrades. Thats just my opinion though.

[Curo]

Are not the hop up on the A&K, G&P, PTS, and Cybergun all the same? I thought they where all part of the Barrel?

[Scouser]

the A&K and PTS have different hop ups, they might both be part of the barrel but they are not interchangeable.

[Eeyore]

Originally Posted by Cobalt Caliber

Are not the hop up on the A&K, G&P, PTS, and Cybergun all the same? I thought they where all part of the Barrel?

Most guns use a TM style hop up. The A&K Masada does not.

[bizkilter]

I found a metal hop-up kit for the A&K, that seems to be the only real issue on that one. Tappet plate, gears and a few other things on the PTS have issues apparently. I found a fairly critical review lastnight. I'll post it later when I get to my comp.

[Eeyore]

Originally Posted by bizkilter

I found a metal hop-up kit for the A&K, that seems to be the only real issue on that one. Tappet plate, gears and a few other things on the PTS have issues apparently. I found a fairly critical review lastnight. I'll post it later when I get to my comp.

I purchased said hop up. It requires the use of some of the stock clear plastic parts. The machining is very poor and does not function. The stock hop up works better than the metal upgraded replacement.

[SuperHog]

Originally Posted by Scouser

a&k you can pick up a metal hop up chamber and air nozzle on ebay, there is a store there that custom makes them

on my team we have 4 of the A&K masadas and one pts one now. The a&k are blowing the pts one away mainly because we put proper upgrades in them right away. The gears stripped on the pts one already, but luckily our guy was able to get it fixed.

I dunno, just seemed a better idea to get the A&K ones and put the money saved into upgrades. Thats just my opinion though.

Since you have seen both A&K and PTS side by side, does the A&K have a good external fit and finish compared to the PTS?

[Eeyore]

Originally Posted by SuperHog

Since you have seen both A&K and PTS side by side, does the A&K have a good external fit and finish compared to the PTS?

Yes it does.

[Curo]

PTS fit and finish is better, but the A&K's isn't bad by any stretch thats for sure.

[SuperHog]

If I get the PTS ACR, can the ARES mech box come out and another brand more TM compatible drop into its place?

or .... can all the proprietary parts in the ARES mech box be swapped out for TM compatible parts?

[Deadpool]

Originally Posted by SuperHog

If I get the PTS ACR, can the ARES mech box come out and another brand more TM compatible drop into its place?

or .... can all the proprietary parts in the ARES mech box be swapped out for TM compatible parts?

Proprietary means that they have a certain fit that isn't reproduced in a TM, therefore it cannot be replaced by anything other then (usually) a factory part.

[SuperHog]

Originally Posted by Deadpool

Proprietary means that they have a certain fit that isn't reproduced in a TM, therefore it cannot be replaced by anything other then (usually) a factory part.

So can I swap out the mech box completely?

[SuperHog]

Originally Posted by Cobalt Caliber

PTS fit and finish is better, but the A&K's isn't bad by any stretch thats for sure.

Can you tell if the plastic is polymer or ABS?