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Old November 25th, 2010, 13:39   #46
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I use my leg platforms for my dump pouch, and pistol if I had one

I don't like Pouch leg rigs for your mags though as like Shelledpants said, it is a pain in the ass to swap mags if you are lying down
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Old November 25th, 2010, 13:40   #47
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One of clutch's original questions wasn't answered which was that of using dropleg holster/platform.

What are peoples thoughts on this? Do you really want to keep gear off your legs (and use a belt instead) or could dropleg platforms be another option for lightweight loadouts?
In my opinion subloads make no sense for low drag loadout.

you want light and low profile.. why would you bulk up and encumber your legs?

Add to this the fact that everyone that I have even known to loose a pistol in the field was running a thigh rig.

Here is the priority of loading...

Pockets - belt- body- pack

Subloads ( thigh rigs ) make sense in CQB where transition to a Secondary is frequent and urgent.. and where crawling / prone positions are less likely.

A light low profile chest rig ( 3-6 mags ) is your #1 friend if your are going low drag... and want the best bang for your buck..
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Old November 25th, 2010, 15:15   #48
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I used to run what I would consider a "Light" loadout, just mags and a holster, I used to run a chicom style chest rig, and put my pistol in one of the mag pouches (It still holds 6 AK mags). If you want an even lighter rig you can do what Brian is suggesting and just use a smock, its very effective. As for leg holsters, I tried it and was not comfortable with it, I was always worried about having my pistol drop out or always messing around with the tightness around my leg. I now run a regular plate carrier, with the holster mounted to the vest. I find this to be the most effective setup.
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Old November 25th, 2010, 15:17   #49
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i use droplegs mainly as utility pouches, i find them useful for carrying extra ammo, loaders you know, extra room for random junk that you dont need to get at in a hurry.
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Old November 25th, 2010, 15:37   #50
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i use droplegs mainly as utility pouches, i find them useful for carrying extra ammo, loaders you know, extra room for random junk that you dont need to get at in a hurry.
and this is exactly my point... Why would you encumber your legs to carry stuff you don't need RIGHT NOW. a properly positioned subload places critical gear at hand. it makes no sense what so ever to bulk up your legs with stuff you don't need.

Subloads ( leg rigs ) trade off low profile and Agility for accessibility.. This makes sense for things like ... a 2nd weapon that you will need to access quickly and often.
Ammo
a gas mask ( useless for airsoft)
Grenades

All of these requirements and properties point to Short sharp high speed engagements such as those found in CQB situations and environments where having to run or move long distances or move through close bush are unlikely
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Old November 25th, 2010, 16:24   #51
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I now run a regular plate carrier, with the holster mounted to the vest. I find this to be the most effective setup.
same here with a chest rig and holster mounted on it, nothing but kneepads on legs

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you want light and low profile.. why would you bulk up and encumber your legs?
absoslutly
it's like the super-low rigs with holsters almost on the knee.It looks 'gunslinger-bad-ass' but is pretty terrible to run with.
Also I've stopped using the dump pouch, too noisy.
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Old November 25th, 2010, 16:43   #52
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and this is exactly my point... Why would you encumber your legs to carry stuff you don't need RIGHT NOW. a properly positioned subload places critical gear at hand. it makes no sense what so ever to bulk up your legs with stuff you don't need.

Subloads ( leg rigs ) trade off low profile and Agility for accessibility.. This makes sense for things like ... a 2nd weapon that you will need to access quickly and often.
Ammo
a gas mask ( useless for airsoft)
Grenades

All of these requirements and properties point to Short sharp high speed engagements such as those found in CQB situations and environments where having to run or move long distances or move through close bush are unlikely
I think this comes down to personal preferance in the end, I like having the gear i need to acess fast on my belt and I use my dropleg for other reasons. Again I have never played cqb, only forest

I do agree with having my pistol in my dropleg, faster more natural draw.
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Old November 25th, 2010, 16:44   #53
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stay away from dump pouches
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Old November 25th, 2010, 16:49   #54
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I think this comes down to personal preferance in the end, I like having the gear i need to acess fast on my belt and I use my dropleg for other reasons. Again I have never played cqb, only forest

I do agree with having my pistol in my dropleg, faster more natural draw.
I agree , you prefer to encumber yourself uselessly .. I do not.. I prefer to optimize my loadout for the specific role I am doing at the time.

Ill don or doff gear according to the specific objective of the sortie.
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Old November 25th, 2010, 16:52   #55
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ill try out ur idea, i can see what you mean
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Old November 25th, 2010, 16:55   #56
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Ferro, why say stay away from dump pouches? What do you do with your empty mags?
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Old November 25th, 2010, 16:56   #57
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Ferro, why say stay away from dump pouches? What do you do with your empty mags?
when in doubt...squeeze em between your cheeks

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Old November 25th, 2010, 17:31   #58
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Old November 25th, 2010, 17:53   #59
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My Lightweight outload

I also have a Light Weight loadout as well, i use a tactical belt, with dump pouch at the back and 4 fast mag pouches on the side, i carry 4 highcap mags so it should be more than enough for a game. Oh i use a M4 Btw so yeah, i have a picture i can show you but not be clear as in what im carrying though

These were taking during a game

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Old November 25th, 2010, 17:56   #60
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I also have a Light Weight loadout as well, i use a tactical belt, with dump pouch at the back and 4 fast mag pouches on the side, i carry 4 highcap mags so it should be more than enough for a game. Oh i use a M4 Btw so yeah, i have a picture i can show you but not be clear as in what im carrying though

These were taking during a game

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You won't see many hicaps in Ontario.
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