What is it with all those PTW for sale?

[Disco_Dante]

Originally Posted by Brian McIlmoyle

Case in point... I have made some excellent deals buying up guns from young guys that spent non discretionary income on toys... literally selling guns off to buy food.

I have an eye out for a PTW for a good price ... but I think september or October will be a better month to find a gun rich cash poor student.

Students have enough people exploiting them without help from the airsoft community :P

[thePiRaTE!!]

Originally Posted by mcguyver

Here's another gem. This lower was sent to me in a CP envelope, the fibre-filled one. It was blasted open 3 times, and was dutifully re-taped by CP:




The battery was twisted, and it took me 2 hours to tear the entire thing down, clean it, regrease and reassemble it before I could even mod the motor. Notice all the fibre dust on the lower, well, it was everywhere, in copius amounts.

Painful laughter ensues...

[thePiRaTE!!]

Originally Posted by Sim123456

You mean like this 120$ usd GBBR?

YouTube - AGM M4 GBB UNDER THE SEA

Or a $372US AEG?

YouTube - Part 2 - RS Type 56-1 AEG Crush Test

Fact is, the PTW uses electronics. There are a lot of ways to have a pretend machine gun, each having their own advantages... and disadvantages. We could show them all day. At the end of that day, we'll all make a choice whats right/fun/best for ourselves. No wrong answer!

But, its not the reason people are selling them. In fact, I'd finally venture we see so many PTWs for sale now because frankly, there are so many more PTWs now than there has been previously. GBBRs and AEGs sell like mad too. Its a good time to be an airsofter.

K.

[Styrak]

Originally Posted by mcguyver

I got one across my bench that I couldn't even disassemble, it has so much brass/steel/alloy corrosion.

I still have the pics.

It never failed due to moisture, in fact, it was working when I got it.

I won't mention who owned this one, to save him/her the embarassment:

OK I see the problem in the first pic, but what's so bad about the other 2?

[Sim123456]

i have those same shorts

That's a heavy trained seal... don't laugh!

[Beowulfe]

Originally Posted by Styrak

OK I see the problem in the first pic, but what's so bad about the other 2?

Doesn't the wire look a little suspicious?

[mcguyver]

Originally Posted by Styrak

OK I see the problem in the first pic, but what's so bad about the other 2?

Look closely. Follow the orange wire.

[Beowulfe]

What gauge is that stuff BTW?

[m102404]

Originally Posted by Beowulfe

What gauge is that stuff BTW?

TFBFIOG...Too F*cking Big For Its Own Good

LOL..

[AngelusNex]

Originally Posted by mcguyver

Here's another gem. This lower was sent to me in a CP envelope, the fibre-filled one. It was blasted open 3 times, and was dutifully re-taped by CP:




The battery was twisted, and it took me 2 hours to tear the entire thing down, clean it, regrease and reassemble it before I could even mod the motor. Notice all the fibre dust on the lower, well, it was everywhere, in copius amounts.

Ok, that looks like CP opened it and tried to ruin it so nobody would be able to use it thinking it was real.

[Sim123456]

Its a good time to be an airsofter.

True, there are a lot of special airsoft for sale in the classified, airsofts that I never though of seeing (like special ares gaz sniper, GHK GBBR etc.)

[Crunchmeister]

Originally Posted by thePiRaTE!!

Or a $372US AEG?

YouTube - Part 2 - RS Type 56-1 AEG Crush Test

Quoted for truth. My Type 56 is the most realistic and overall best airsoft gun I've ever had the pleasure of shooting. I would put it up against any AEG or PTW any day in terms of performance and accuracy. And in terms of ruggedness and reliability, I would rank it as king of the hill.

I would love to see what Real Sword would do if they were to produce an AR-style AEG.

[thePiRaTE!!]

Originally Posted by Crunchmeister

Quoted for truth. My Type 56 is the most realistic and overall best airsoft gun I've ever had the pleasure of shooting. I would put it up against any AEG or PTW any day in terms of performance and accuracy. And in terms of ruggedness and reliability, I would rank it as king of the hill.

I would love to see what Real Sword would do if they were to produce an AR-style AEG.

Me too, though I think they are very keyed in on specifically Chinese weaponry and there are still a few gaps to fill in that column. I guess my point in bringing up the RS was to counterpoint the view of GBB being alone in its ability to negotiate adverse conditions. The more the electronics housing gets improved over time on PTWs, the better it will weather. That said, it isn't bad as it is, I gamed my PTW in falling wet snow and rain both with no ill effect.

FWIW, I have a Type 56-1 and an SVD incoming as we speak. RS's attention to detail, build and pricing are impressive. I do concur that the cast aluminum receiver of the PTW is no match for the forged steel, milled, blu'd receiver of the RS AKs but where the electronics in the PTW shine is in rendering trigger lag and pre-cocking obsolete. Even with the advances in motor and battery technology, this continues to be the main area where AEGs 'lag' behind all other delivery systems.

[Brian McIlmoyle]

Originally Posted by Disco_Dante

Students have enough people exploiting them without help from the airsoft community :P

I don't really see it as "exploitation" I see it as "Market Correction" Placing the goods in the hands of people who can afford to give the guns a good home, with fresh batteries, clean gas.. and all the BBs they can eat.

[mcguyver]

Originally Posted by Sepulcrum

Ok, that looks like CP opened it and tried to ruin it so nobody would be able to use it thinking it was real.

No, the weight of the lower was too much for a flimsy paper envelope. It brust through again just from me handling the package.