TM Glock 17 Metal Slide + Outer Barrel (PGC or Guarder?)

KEVORKIAN · August 16th, 2009, 20:00

I'd have to say it's more matte than mirror-like. Nice and durable too!
You be the judge:

takealap · August 17th, 2009, 23:44

It looks nice. Idk what kind of look im going for, do you own this slide? And check out this pic, the slide looks more mirror-like http://images.google.com/imgres?imgu...%3D72%26um%3D1

KEVORKIAN · August 17th, 2009, 23:54

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Originally Posted by takealap

It looks nice. Idk what kind of look im going for, do you own this slide?

I own quite a few different slides for the TM G17...PGC is my favorite so far, I have both the black & silver!
I'm looking at trying a couple of the latest G17 slide combo's from the Airsoft Surgeon line up!

takealap · August 18th, 2009, 00:05

Woah that was quick lol I'm debating between getting a silver pgc slide, black guarder frame, and everything else that comes for the guarder enhanced kit. Or just getting a guarder enhanced kit with an od frame. What I don't understand is what's so great about the pgc slide? I'm guessing fitting sucks just as it was for my ksc g19, and it's just black or silver just like guarder right? Nothing that different really is there?

KEVORKIAN · August 18th, 2009, 00:12

There is a BIG difference between the Guarder slide & the PGC (at least for the TM G17)...I no longer have a Guarder slide if ya know what I mean!!!

http://www.airsoftcanada.com/showthr...t=61993&page=5

takealap · August 18th, 2009, 00:28

Oh ok I guess the guarder kit is out then. All them look sweet who makes that tactical block on the first g17 5ku, pdi, or is it real steel?

Donster · August 18th, 2009, 00:37

what about shooter's design? do they not make glock slides? i thought that company was one of the best in the airsoft world?

KEVORKIAN · August 18th, 2009, 00:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by takealap

Oh ok I guess the guarder kit is out then. All them look sweet who makes that tactical block on the first g17 5ku, pdi, or is it real steel?

PDI...and it cost a small fortune!

RacingManiac · August 18th, 2009, 00:40

Guarder frame sucks....period....it breaks....

I like my Guarder stainless steel slide though....works quite well, gas consumption is not bad(40+ round per fill, with 200% recoil spring). Have that nice heavy weight to it...

http://www.pbase.com/racingmaniac/glock&page=all

The polished finish is done afterward, the stock finish is more matte...

The Glock 26 has PGC slide, but their Glock 17 slides have different kind of finish now...

KEVORKIAN · August 18th, 2009, 00:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by Donster

what about shooter's design? do they not make glock slides? i thought that company was one of the best in the airsoft world?

They do make great slides but maybe not such a great Glock 17 version!

takealap · August 19th, 2009, 14:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by RacingManiac

Guarder frame sucks....period....it breaks....

I like my Guarder stainless steel slide though....works quite well, gas consumption is not bad(40+ round per fill, with 200% recoil spring). Have that nice heavy weight to it...

http://www.pbase.com/racingmaniac/glock&page=all

The polished finish is done afterward, the stock finish is more matte...

The Glock 26 has PGC slide, but their Glock 17 slides have different kind of finish now...

I really want one of those steel slides for the glock 17. But aren't they all discontinued? And the guarder frames break? In the picture with your glock 17 it looks like you have a guarder frame. Did it break?

ILLusion · August 19th, 2009, 14:56

I can have custom stainless steel slides machined for you if you wish, in any finish and design you'd like.

RacingManiac · August 19th, 2009, 15:16

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Originally Posted by takealap

I really want one of those steel slides for the glock 17. But aren't they all discontinued? And the guarder frames break? In the picture with your glock 17 it looks like you have a guarder frame. Did it break?

Yep, snapped right at the screw up front that screws the inner frame to the plastic frame. I think its a tolerance issue, in that in the TM frame the metal inner bottoms out against the front of the plastic frame, and is fully supported, where as the Guarder one doesn't, so the return to battery force is only going through the screw hole on the plastic frame(in shear, no less)...

I am back to running the TM frame with no issue.

takealap · August 19th, 2009, 15:23

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Originally Posted by RacingManiac

Yep, snapped right at the screw up front that screws the inner frame to the plastic frame. I think its a tolerance issue, in that in the TM frame the metal inner bottoms out against the front of the plastic frame, and is fully supported, where as the Guarder one doesn't, so the return to battery force is only going through the screw hole on the plastic frame(in shear, no less)...

I am back to running the TM frame with no issue.

Have you used another guarder frame since it snapped? I've never heard of that issue before. Maybe it has to do with the steel slide because a lot of people use aluminum slides on guarder frames and they work fine.

RacingManiac · August 19th, 2009, 17:07

Could be the steel slide, but a guy on Trader's Airsoft have snapped multiple one of these on aluminum slide too.....

At anyrate, Guarder frame gains me nothing over the stock other than the trades, so I am not too worried about it....for $30 I didn't lose much....

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August 16th, 2009, 20:00	#31
KEVORKIAN Trader rating Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Manitoba	I'd have to say it's more matte than mirror-like. Nice and durable too! You be the judge: __________________ Kevorkian I SUPPORT THE USE OF SILICA BB BASTARDS!

August 17th, 2009, 23:44	#32
takealap Trader rating Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Florida	It looks nice. Idk what kind of look im going for, do you own this slide? And check out this pic, the slide looks more mirror-like http://images.google.com/imgres?imgu...%3D72%26um%3D1 Last edited by takealap; August 17th, 2009 at 23:52..

August 18th, 2009, 00:12	#35
KEVORKIAN Trader rating Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Manitoba	There is a BIG difference between the Guarder slide & the PGC (at least for the TM G17)...I no longer have a Guarder slide if ya know what I mean!!! http://www.airsoftcanada.com/showthr...t=61993&page=5 __________________ Kevorkian I SUPPORT THE USE OF SILICA BB BASTARDS!

August 18th, 2009, 00:05	#34
takealap Trader rating Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Florida	Woah that was quick lol I'm debating between getting a silver pgc slide, black guarder frame, and everything else that comes for the guarder enhanced kit. Or just getting a guarder enhanced kit with an od frame. What I don't understand is what's so great about the pgc slide? I'm guessing fitting sucks just as it was for my ksc g19, and it's just black or silver just like guarder right? Nothing that different really is there?

August 18th, 2009, 00:28	#36
takealap Trader rating Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Florida	Oh ok I guess the guarder kit is out then. All them look sweet who makes that tactical block on the first g17 5ku, pdi, or is it real steel?

August 18th, 2009, 00:37	#37
Donster Trader rating Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: GTA	what about shooter's design? do they not make glock slides? i thought that company was one of the best in the airsoft world?

August 18th, 2009, 00:40	#39
RacingManiac Trader rating Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Canada/US	Guarder frame sucks....period....it breaks.... I like my Guarder stainless steel slide though....works quite well, gas consumption is not bad(40+ round per fill, with 200% recoil spring). Have that nice heavy weight to it... http://www.pbase.com/racingmaniac/glock&page=all The polished finish is done afterward, the stock finish is more matte... The Glock 26 has PGC slide, but their Glock 17 slides have different kind of finish now... __________________ My Arnies' Album My PBase Album Custom Pistol Whore... Last edited by RacingManiac; August 18th, 2009 at 00:44..

August 19th, 2009, 14:56	#42
ILLusion GBB Whisperer Trader rating Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Toronto	I can have custom stainless steel slides machined for you if you wish, in any finish and design you'd like. __________________ *Advanced Airsoft Armaments and Enhancements* Quick to the gun, sure of your grip. Quick to the threat, sure of your shot. Diligentia, Vis, Celeritas Accuracy, Power, Speed

August 19th, 2009, 17:07	#45
RacingManiac Trader rating Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Canada/US	Could be the steel slide, but a guy on Trader's Airsoft have snapped multiple one of these on aluminum slide too..... At anyrate, Guarder frame gains me nothing over the stock other than the trades, so I am not too worried about it....for $30 I didn't lose much.... __________________ My Arnies' Album My PBase Album Custom Pistol Whore...

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