Noobie Help?

Bowers · April 10th, 2008, 04:28

i missed a noobie bite back? damn i gotta stop sleeping

TokyoSeven · April 10th, 2008, 04:48

Guitly of what? attempting to educate?
You sir are on glue.

pusangani · April 10th, 2008, 04:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by TokyoSeven

Guitly of what? attempting to educate?
You sir are on glue.

my post was in no way an attack on you personally so just drop it, I was simply agreeing that sometime the noobs come in all naive with their questions and they take the initial flaming that they deserve for their laziness to search for their own info and as soon as a "senior" member agrees with them, they start firing back. you can take that to mean whatever you want it to mean.

TokyoSeven · April 10th, 2008, 05:08

There shouldnt need to be initial flaming in the first place.
Some people do try to research, ASC is most likly the first place they find. Although they come arms open and mouth wide expecting a spoon feeding, they dont deserve flaming, you let them know the etiquette. When they persist, then you be assertive, after that, let them be dog meat. I find however its the same few people doing it all the time.

Honestly if I joined a website for the first time and was greeted with " You are under age! hate hate hate flame flame flame" I would wonder what the hell is wrong with the community and be lippy too.

Understood your comments were not meant as any form of attack.
I agree with your last statement though, however this is the internet, what can do? Alot actually, but my comment was meant to be taken as a rhetorical question.

pusangani · April 10th, 2008, 05:41

The issue I have with the noob's lazyness is that there are literally dozens of threads asking the same questions, and they all feel the need to post it in one of my favourite sections, the gun section. if only there was a seperate section where all noobie and introduction related threads had to go that would be alot sweeter.

I am guilty of flaming but it's not that I dont want the sport to grow and prosper but there is only so much noobishness one can take, I've only been in airsoft and on this forum for a short time now, but I have NEVER started one of these "what do you think about this gun?" threads because I know how to use the search function+google and I am not a genius by any stretch of the imagination

TokyoSeven · April 10th, 2008, 05:44

Oh Im more than guilty of flaming, but I prefer to call it assertive rectal fingering. Now that I think about it, today Im 1 and 1, 1 flaming/mocking 1 attempt at helping someone new. Why am I still here? I should have been in bed hours ago.

Aqua, come tuck me in wherever you are.

Firewalker · April 10th, 2008, 06:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jet

As for you, you may want to consider to GTFO.

"I like this kid, He's got MOXY!"

Jet · April 10th, 2008, 11:39

Sup. See this post went somewhere overnight

Schwag · April 10th, 2008, 13:15

Some people forget that occasionally people are new to computers and forums as well as airsoft. Learning the two together can be daunting.
When I got on here, I'd never used forums before and didn't know my way around to find the info needed. That's changed now but it took awhile.
Let's not flame them for not knowing, let's flame them for thinking there's such a thing as a mature 16-year-old. I'm 32 and I wouldn't trust me with an airsoft gun.

Trapper1 · April 10th, 2008, 14:04

I know how you feel jet. I've been around and handling REAL firearms since i was 5 years old, shooting activley since i was six, and hunting since twelve.
again with real guns and NO incidents. Whereas a 20 year old playin around and showin off to his buddies with his dads pistol shoots his dumb self or someone else. Back to tokyos point, age has nothing to do with maturity. and anyone who was to come up an tell me i was not mature would get knocked out frankly. I also belive any one wishing to buy an airsoft gun should be required to take a firearms saftey course and obtain their PAL. including clear soft and pellet guns

Jet · April 10th, 2008, 15:13

So, your telling me there are NO 16 year olds who are responsible ON EARTH? Wow, thats like telling me earth is the only planet to bear life in the entire universe.

I handle real guns as well, I hunt if that makes everyone feel better about my saftey.

JTF27 · April 10th, 2008, 15:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jet

So, your telling me there are NO 16 year olds who are responsible ON EARTH? Wow, thats like telling me earth is the only planet to bear life in the entire universe.

I handle real guns as well, I hunt if that makes everyone feel better about my saftey.

No one is questioning your safety, we are simply saying that it is legal issues that we allow 18 and over to play. If a 16 year old got hurt at a game then the field owner is responsible. If an 18 year old got hurt he is legally an adult and can be held for his own actions. This is what I understand the 18+ rule to be so if anyone wants to make corrections to my statement please do so.

Jet · April 10th, 2008, 15:25

Yes true, I dont play on fields though. Ive only got as far as a friends farm, shooting up each other in bales of hay.

The Saint · April 10th, 2008, 15:25

We're not saying there are no responsible 16 year olds. We're saying that generally speaking, age is the best indicator of maturity. Not the perfect indicator, but nothing else really comes close. We believe that at the very least, being 18+ means that you're legally liable for your own actions and more inclined to be responsible. Or at least, prosecutable in the event of stupidity.

The fact that you're arguing with us only serves to prove the point. With maturity comes an acceptance that life is not about making exceptions for you. Saying that you're mature because you say so doesn't exactly prove anything to us. As for having handled real guns and hunted, so what? Lots of people have, doesn't mean they're mature.

You might in fact be mature enough to not do something incredibly stupid with airsoft guns. There is no real way for us to know, so we error on the side of caution. Don't take it personally.

In all honesty, I'd recommend visiting a game and getting to know the people there, instead of trying to set up your own barnyard war right off the bat. Leave your dad at home, bring your mom.

Jet · April 10th, 2008, 15:26

Er...Im not arguing at all that 18yrs. is the age of liability

Edit: And for the rest, There is no way to prove your mature on the internet. Arguing with people on the net is like arguing with a toaster.

Edit: There are no games in smalltown Carlyle. The only person to have an airsoft gun would be me.

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April 10th, 2008, 04:48	#32
TokyoSeven Red Wine & Adderall Trader rating Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Saskatoon, SK	Guitly of what? attempting to educate? You sir are on glue. __________________ "Its only a little bit on fire"

April 10th, 2008, 05:08	#34
TokyoSeven Red Wine & Adderall Trader rating Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Saskatoon, SK	There shouldnt need to be initial flaming in the first place. Some people do try to research, ASC is most likly the first place they find. Although they come arms open and mouth wide expecting a spoon feeding, they dont deserve flaming, you let them know the etiquette. When they persist, then you be assertive, after that, let them be dog meat. I find however its the same few people doing it all the time. Honestly if I joined a website for the first time and was greeted with " You are under age! hate hate hate flame flame flame" I would wonder what the hell is wrong with the community and be lippy too. Understood your comments were not meant as any form of attack. I agree with your last statement though, however this is the internet, what can do? Alot actually, but my comment was meant to be taken as a rhetorical question. __________________ "Its only a little bit on fire"

April 10th, 2008, 05:44	#36
TokyoSeven Red Wine & Adderall Trader rating Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Saskatoon, SK	Oh Im more than guilty of flaming, but I prefer to call it assertive rectal fingering. Now that I think about it, today Im 1 and 1, 1 flaming/mocking 1 attempt at helping someone new. Why am I still here? I should have been in bed hours ago. Aqua, come tuck me in wherever you are. __________________ "Its only a little bit on fire"

April 10th, 2008, 04:28	#31
Bowers Trader rating Join Date: Apr 2007	i missed a noobie bite back? damn i gotta stop sleeping

April 10th, 2008, 05:41	#35
pusangani Official ASC "Dumb Ass" Trader rating Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Scarbrah, Ontario	The issue I have with the noob's lazyness is that there are literally dozens of threads asking the same questions, and they all feel the need to post it in one of my favourite sections, the gun section. if only there was a seperate section where all noobie and introduction related threads had to go that would be alot sweeter. I am guilty of flaming but it's not that I dont want the sport to grow and prosper but there is only so much noobishness one can take, I've only been in airsoft and on this forum for a short time now, but I have NEVER started one of these "what do you think about this gun?" threads because I know how to use the search function+google and I am not a genius by any stretch of the imagination

April 10th, 2008, 11:39	#38
Jet Trader rating Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Carlyle, SK.	Sup. See this post went somewhere overnight

April 10th, 2008, 13:15	#39
Schwag Trader rating Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: A sick fascist corporatocracy.	Some people forget that occasionally people are new to computers and forums as well as airsoft. Learning the two together can be daunting. When I got on here, I'd never used forums before and didn't know my way around to find the info needed. That's changed now but it took awhile. Let's not flame them for not knowing, let's flame them for thinking there's such a thing as a mature 16-year-old. I'm 32 and I wouldn't trust me with an airsoft gun. __________________ (Former)Grand Poobah of T.W.A.T.

April 10th, 2008, 14:04	#40
Trapper1 Trader rating Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Stony mountain, MB	I know how you feel jet. I've been around and handling REAL firearms since i was 5 years old, shooting activley since i was six, and hunting since twelve. again with real guns and NO incidents. Whereas a 20 year old playin around and showin off to his buddies with his dads pistol shoots his dumb self or someone else. Back to tokyos point, age has nothing to do with maturity. and anyone who was to come up an tell me i was not mature would get knocked out frankly. I also belive any one wishing to buy an airsoft gun should be required to take a firearms saftey course and obtain their PAL. including clear soft and pellet guns

April 10th, 2008, 15:13	#41
Jet Trader rating Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Carlyle, SK.	So, your telling me there are NO 16 year olds who are responsible ON EARTH? Wow, thats like telling me earth is the only planet to bear life in the entire universe. I handle real guns as well, I hunt if that makes everyone feel better about my saftey.

April 10th, 2008, 15:25	#43
Jet Trader rating Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Carlyle, SK.	Yes true, I dont play on fields though. Ive only got as far as a friends farm, shooting up each other in bales of hay.

April 10th, 2008, 15:25	#44
The Saint Trader rating Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Quebec	We're not saying there are no responsible 16 year olds. We're saying that generally speaking, age is the best indicator of maturity. Not the perfect indicator, but nothing else really comes close. We believe that at the very least, being 18+ means that you're legally liable for your own actions and more inclined to be responsible. Or at least, prosecutable in the event of stupidity. The fact that you're arguing with us only serves to prove the point. With maturity comes an acceptance that life is not about making exceptions for you. Saying that you're mature because you say so doesn't exactly prove anything to us. As for having handled real guns and hunted, so what? Lots of people have, doesn't mean they're mature. You might in fact be mature enough to not do something incredibly stupid with airsoft guns. There is no real way for us to know, so we error on the side of caution. Don't take it personally. In all honesty, I'd recommend visiting a game and getting to know the people there, instead of trying to set up your own barnyard war right off the bat. Leave your dad at home, bring your mom. __________________ "The Bird of Hermes is My Name, Eating My Wings to Make Me Tame."

April 10th, 2008, 15:26	#45
Jet Trader rating Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Carlyle, SK.	Er...Im not arguing at all that 18yrs. is the age of liability Edit: And for the rest, There is no way to prove your mature on the internet. Arguing with people on the net is like arguing with a toaster. Edit: There are no games in smalltown Carlyle. The only person to have an airsoft gun would be me. Last edited by Jet; April 10th, 2008 at 15:30..

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