CA to release new M14's and get this... plastic bodied M15A4's....

[Donster]

well either way, for a newbie such as myself, who doesn't have much cash to begin with, a TM is perfect. A TM M14 to be precise. Not only is it one of my favorite guns, but its full metal save for the stock and there are a ton of great upgrades for it that i can't simply find for the CA M14. That and i can get a real wood stock is always awesome as well! =P

I must say it does feel good to finally have my setup (gun wise) all picked out (TM M14). Second step is actually getting the cash together to buy the gun. Whats even worse, a year or so after i get my AEG, im going to get a sniper rifle, which will be a blessing and a curse. Blessing cause its (Tanaka Kar 98k) awesome, and a curse cause its so damned expensive. but i shall cross that bridge when it comes.

[BBS]

Although TM is the slightly more trusty/reliable brand than CA, people are starting stick to CA as well because they are cheaper considering the preupgraded parts (gearbox internals, metal reinforcements). The relatively new line of CA products are safe to trust. One will almost never hear their CA guns breaking (2006 models and up), but a TM's reliability is still superior...in stock form.

on a side note: Donster 125. IMHO isn't your M14 bascially a sniper already? as nice as a Tanaka Kar 98k is don't waste more money on it, if it breaks replacement parts are a bitch to find. Plus its not really useful on the field unless you are determined to play the role as a sniper.

[Donster]

Originally Posted by BBS

Although TM is the slightly more trusty/reliable brand than CA, people are starting stick to CA as well because they are cheaper considering the preupgraded parts (gearbox internals, metal reinforcements). The relatively new line of CA products are safe to trust. One will almost never hear their CA guns breaking (2006 models and up), but a TM's reliability is still superior...in stock form.

on a side note: Donster 125. IMHO isn't your M14 bascially a sniper already? as nice as a Tanaka Kar 98k is don't waste more money on it, if it breaks replacement parts are a bitch to find. Plus its not really useful on the field unless you are determined to play the role as a sniper.

i mean this in the most un-patronizing way possible but if i come across as seeming false and superficial, forgive me. I really do appreciate your concern on the matter especially considering the fact that, like i said, am a newb. That being said, i plan on joining the WWII re-enactors. So, since i would be an Axis soldier and since i love the Mauser and since i need a sniper rifle down the road, i plan on purchasing one. That being said, i wouldn't make my M14 shoot over 400fps as it is bad on the internals. the mauser will be able to shoot 450 with no strain whatsoever. as for the CA guns. you are most likely right, the newer stuff is generally more reliable (or should i say considerably so) than their old stuff. But just for myself and my own peace of mind, i think i will stick with TM. Besides, im going to purchase the 350fps upgrade from 007 airsoft, so it will be good-to-go once i recieve it. the only thing after that is a TB barrel.

Thanks again for your input on the sniper rifle. I have considered it thoroughly. My main answer is: If my grandfather, along with a vast majority of the soldiers in the Heer, and the SS could kick ass with the Kar98k, then im sure i will manage to use it for sniping. That being said, its obvious shortcomings as a main weapon is why i am so eager to use it as one via the WWII airsofters.

[BBS]

Many People including me start out with TMs as they are extremely reliable. Other companies just doesn't have the same "trust" as you do with TM's Upon making a first purchase.

I can sense your passion. good luck.

[Donster]

thanks! its just that i have heard nth bad really about TM internals. For me, as well as most of us, we know what we like to look at. Its what's on the inside, the guts of the AEG, that make it perform. So, that being said, i have decided to go with TM. As for passion? lol who knows. I just like to rant cause it makes me feel smart. Sorta like writing essays for politics class =).

[Ace of Spades©]

Originally Posted by Ronan

Sorry but bwuahahahhahaha. CA beats TM external finishes any time. After handling a couple stock TM's (and feeling like a kid) i went back to fiddling a couple CA's (*orgasm*). Man... why do people even buy TM? Oh yeah... because they stick metal bodies on them. Heck even my CA stock looks 10 times better than a TM stock. I have also seen a TM RIS handguard... you could still see the casting lines on it...

Save yourself some hassle, grab a CA, change that cheap piston head and you are good to go. Oh and the bucking.

I asked a couple vets why does CA doesn't change their internals to TM standards... i was answered the following: 'CA knows we get their guns and then just upgrade the internals to the fps we want. So they don't bother changing their way's.'

If you want realism, grab a CA (unless you got 3 grande sitting around, get a PTW), and change some internal parts. It's worth it!

You do know that we were on the line of talking about M14's right? Or did you just skim throught the thread untill you found something to comment about?

First of all, I, unlike you have owned both TM and CA. You may have gotten a chance to finger fuck a TM, which was probably an older series (plastic) but the TM M14 is pretty much full metal and the metal is much nicer then that of my CA SCAR-L.

With that said, YES I would buy a CA over a TM if it came to a M4. Yes I would probably buy a CA over a TM if it came to a G36 (I would have to get the Army Code receiver for it though). NO I would not buy CA over TM if it came to the M14's.

Ask local players that use the TM M14 and those that play againts one and they will all say the same things : 1. Laser accurate 2. No need to upgrade other then brushings, spring and spring guide 3. Most lethal gun on the market (I was regularly knocking out whole fire teams when defending and was able to pin down most players while staying outside of their upgraded gun's range. And this was with a bone stock TM M14 SOCOM.

EDIT for DONSTER 123: University level politics or High School? Just finnished my ISU for my grade 12 political science class...

[Ronan]

Originally Posted by Ace of Spades

You do know that we were on the line of talking about M14's right? Or did you just skim throught the thread untill you found something to comment about?

First of all, I, unlike you have owned both TM and CA. You may have gotten a chance to finger fuck a TM, which was probably an older series (plastic) but the TM M14 is pretty much full metal and the metal is much nicer then that of my CA SCAR-L.

With that said, YES I would buy a CA over a TM if it came to a M4. Yes I would probably buy a CA over a TM if it came to a G36 (I would have to get the Army Code receiver for it though). NO I would not buy CA over TM if it came to the M14's.

Ask local players that use the TM M14 and those that play againts one and they will all say the same things : 1. Laser accurate 2. No need to upgrade other then brushings, spring and spring guide 3. Most lethal gun on the market (I was regularly knocking out whole fire teams when defending and was able to pin down most players while staying outside of their upgraded gun's range. And this was with a bone stock TM M14 SOCOM.

EDIT for DONSTER 123: University level politics or High School? Just finnished my ISU for my grade 12 political science class...

So basically what i said. CA > TM for finishes. TM < CA for internals... but you end up changing the internals anyway so... yeah.

I'v held the CA M14, it felt awesome and the look well it was painted. I do hear that the TM one is a lot better. Well good, but i would still go with a CA for a full metal gun.

[Donster]

understandable. hey, i just had a quick question. how do you actually mount a sight on a stock TM M14? i didn't see any rails or such, but i could be mistaken.

[Ronan]

You install a RIS:

Small RIS kit:
#1 http://www.uncompany.com/pageproduct...sp?prodid=6952
#2 http://www.uncompany.com/pageproduct...sp?prodid=9490
#3 http://www.uncompany.com/pageproduct...sp?prodid=6804

RIS conversion kit:
#1 http://www.uncompany.com/pageproduct...sp?prodid=6204
#2 http://www.uncompany.com/pageproduct...sp?prodid=6801

[Hedonism Bot]

http://www.arniesairsoft.co.uk/revie...uct/631/cat/16


I've never used the CA M14 but I do know that any of the "plastic bodies" complaints do not apply to the TM M14. The fit and finish is first rate. There's a reason it's one of the more expensive Maruis.

[Hedonism Bot]

sorry i thought that link had a picture with a scope.

It has a scout-style scope mount built in. But if you want a more traditional style of mount (further back) you have to buy it seperatly.

Most of the TM promo stuff shows it with an aimpoint-type scope.

[Goodl2ussian]

only plastic part on the TM M14 is the very outer body. EVerything within that is metal (not entirely sure of the gears and whatnot) but i had the SOCOM one <3'd it beautiful gun ran smoothly.

[Ace of Spades©]

Just get a scope base. I recommend the low profile ones from ether Hero Arms or King arms, since they are the lightest and I find the more practical since I dont wear a full face mask.

[Donster]

Originally Posted by Ace of Spades

Just get a scope base. I recommend the low profile ones from ether Hero Arms or King arms, since they are the lightest and I find the more practical since I dont wear a full face mask.

i do wear a full face mask, so would the side mounts still work? that being said, my mask is the lowest profile paintball i can get and i bought it purposely for that reason.

[Donster]

Originally Posted by Ace of Spades

EDIT for DONSTER 123: University level politics or High School? Just finnished my ISU for my grade 12 political science class...

grade 12. i am not taking politics in uni. Though i did write a lot for my grade 12 ISU. if you get stuck on yours, i can send you mine. 20 solid pages with great sourcing and references on why the war in iraq is justified (i like to stir the shit when i write =P ). Its uni quality for sure. put it this way, if i was taking politics, i would submit this paper without hesitation.

EDIT:

Does anyone know of a high profile scope mount base for the TM M14 that can be used with a full face mask?